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How do Races of people exist?

Old Oct 18, 2009 | 06:09 PM
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I have always wandered this, and have tried to find an answer to it... but if we base the human race as it currently stands on Darwin's theory of evolution, how can races such as Chinese, Japanes, African, Dutch etc. etc. exist? I am not questioning the theory itself as I personally believe it to be true but just trying to 'iron out' the details...

Do we, as humans, share a common ancestor but have evolved through the environment etc or is it based upon a common ancestor with various defining features? Some documents state that we as humans are at the very beginning of our evolutionary journey and that the defining features of race have only affected us by our appearance... and that the DNA involved in this equates to roughly 0.1 percent of our total genomes.


So yeah... basic question is... how come there are different races of human??
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 06:14 PM
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"Race" isn't an appropriate word; it's more of a societal/cultural faux-label with very little actual meaning. Ethnicity relates to divergent evolution, but very subtle (mostly in visual appearance) evolution... your observations only serve to support evolution?

(A chief physical "characteristic" that is used when describing "race" tends to be skin color--which results primarily from changes in melanin content: more melanin means a better ability to protect yourself from the sun, less means a better ability to process/produce vitamin D. Just another evolutionary trade-off, dependent on the environment.)
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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There's only one race of humans. That's why its called the human race. Divergence is the result of environmental differences.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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I can see the environment changing the colour of your skin quite easily due to the obvious necessity for the protection from the sun but traits as in how people look, be it height or facial features... why are Scandinavians typically blonde? just stuff like that... Is that from just natural evolution of hereditary genes or from the environment or both?


It's like if you look at birds... are we at the early stages and they have merely evolved further so that differences are not only superficial but also within their inner workings??

Or is it simply that I am being an idiot and just thinking crap? if it is please tell me haha


Oh and just incase people get ideas, I didn't make this thread to be nasty or to start arguments... just grown up chat here and also sorry for using the term 'race' if it meant any offense
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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People are still People no matter how different they look - we all have the same appendages, same number of chromosomes, etc.

Thats the one reason I dont believe in Darwainian evolution. I do believe in natural selection and microevolution though.

People have diff colors skin/hair/eyes because:
1) thats best suited for their environment
2) whats usually best suited for their environment is seen as "attractive"
3) "attractive" people make lots of babies
4) said babies have qualities of "attractive" parents = best suited for environments.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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I think its environmental evolution. Scandinavians don't see as much sun (I'm assuming, based on distance from equator/tilt of earth/etc) as much as Africans. Which is why I think they are typically fair skinned blondes.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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cuz god wanted it that way
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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the answer is evolution and how it evolves through different environments
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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Some reading for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_e...onary_genetics
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution

In general, also from Wikipedia:
H. sapiens ("sapiens" is Latin for wise or intelligent) has lived from about 250,000 years ago to the present. Between 400,000 years ago and the second interglacial period in the Middle Pleistocene, around 250,000 years ago, the trend in skull expansion and the elaboration of stone tool technologies developed, providing evidence for a transition from H. erectus to H. sapiens. The direct evidence suggests there was a migration of H. erectus out of Africa, then a further speciation of H. sapiens from H. erectus in Africa. A subsequent migration within and out of Africa eventually replaced the earlier dispersed H. erectus. This migration and origin theory is usually referred to as the recent single origin or Out of Africa theory. Current evidence does not preclude some multiregional evolution or some admixture of the migrant H. sapiens with existing Homo populations. This is a hotly debated area of paleoanthropology.

Current research has established that human beings are genetically highly homogenous; that is, the DNA of individuals is more alike than usual for most species, which may have resulted from their relatively recent evolution or the possibility of a population bottleneck resulting from cataclysmic natural events such as the Toba catastrophe.[38][39][40] Distinctive genetic characteristics have arisen, however, primarily as the result of small groups of people moving into new environmental circumstances. These adapted traits are a very small component of the Homo sapiens genome, but include various characteristics such as skin color and nose form, in addition to internal characteristics such as the ability to breathe more efficiently in high altitudes.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nickamsweet,Oct 18 2009, 09:41 PM
It's like if you look at birds... are we at the early stages and they have merely evolved further so that differences are not only superficial but also within their inner workings??
There is no such thing as superficial changes, except plastic surgery or something similar. We have different "groups" based on where people live geographically, the climate patterns there, food sources, and so on. But all environmental changes influence us on the inside. The reason you tan is because signals are being turned on for "tanning" in response to external stimuli, such as too much sun.

Also, the reason why there is only our "race" whereas there are many "races" of birds is because our species was dominant over previous humanoids. Our ability to adapt to nearly every environment, every short coming, etc., allows us to exert our influence. If you could go back tens of thousands of years, you could probably find Homo sapiens beating the crap out of our evolutionary ancestors. If you had a species of bird that was as adaptable as we are, then you would probably only find one species of bird.

That's probably the thing about our species; even though we do not have as many genes or total base pairs as some other seemingly ancestral organisms, it is the quality of our genes as well as the regulation and adaptability of our systems that grants us the dominant role on this planet. It is also what makes us all look, act, and think so differently.
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