How do so many young people get disability?
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To save time, read the first paragraph and then the last paragraph...the middle chuck is details. 
I work at a daycare, and today a woman came in asking about Childcare Assistance (for some reason, they all know this assistance program by nothing other than "childcare"), it's like welfare...but for daycares.
Well, she says that she doesn't work on weekdays, just weekends, but found out she qualified for "childcare". She told me her kids wouldn't come very often, but since the state's paying she thought she'd sign up. I then politely said that the state requires them to be in attendance full-time, and I was assured, "Oh they'll come".
I leave the office to retrieve the registration information. By the time I got back she was long gone. My boss had told her our policy regarding Childcare Assistance. YOU pay the first month upfront (almost $500) plus a $100 Registration fee; THEN the state pays us A PORTION of your monthly tuition.
When she found out she couldn't profit from this one, she took off.
I work at a daycare, and today a woman came in asking about Childcare Assistance (for some reason, they all know this assistance program by nothing other than "childcare"), it's like welfare...but for daycares.
Well, she says that she doesn't work on weekdays, just weekends, but found out she qualified for "childcare". She told me her kids wouldn't come very often, but since the state's paying she thought she'd sign up. I then politely said that the state requires them to be in attendance full-time, and I was assured, "Oh they'll come".
I leave the office to retrieve the registration information. By the time I got back she was long gone. My boss had told her our policy regarding Childcare Assistance. YOU pay the first month upfront (almost $500) plus a $100 Registration fee; THEN the state pays us A PORTION of your monthly tuition.
When she found out she couldn't profit from this one, she took off.
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Originally Posted by CARNUTMAMA,Nov 13 2006, 09:43 PM
Disability goes to people who are disabled. State disability pays for up to one year, if you are still disabled you get federal disability. Most states give 6 weeks disability to pregnant women. You can get more if you have medical complications.
I worked with a young women with lupus. A horribly disabeling disease; usually people die young, 40's or 50's. She was still working in her late 20's, because her husband, a roofer, had fallen off a roof, broken his back and was on disability. Disability does not pay as much as your job. They had just bought their house and two disability checks would not pay the mortgage. Their plan was to have her keep working until her husband was able to walk again, retrain for a non physical job and work again.
Another young disabled person I know was a coworkers son. He was out partying one night and in an impaired state saw three people breaking into a car. He tried to stop them and they beat him very badly. He lost the vision in one eye, the hearing in one ear and has minor brain damage. (The brain damage makes it hard for him to learn and also makes him prone to anger) He is on permanent federal disability since he was 23 or 24, now about 35.
The third young person I know on disability was a coworkers brother. He was hit by a drunk driver when he was a sophmore in college. He is peralyzed on one side and has brain damage bad enough to have the mentality of a 6 year old. He is in his 40s now. His payments are very low because he only worked part-time while in high school and college. The drunk driver had no insurance and no money, so he got nothing from him.
Some people who are disable do not look bad. Just count your blessings that you are not disabled.
I worked with a young women with lupus. A horribly disabeling disease; usually people die young, 40's or 50's. She was still working in her late 20's, because her husband, a roofer, had fallen off a roof, broken his back and was on disability. Disability does not pay as much as your job. They had just bought their house and two disability checks would not pay the mortgage. Their plan was to have her keep working until her husband was able to walk again, retrain for a non physical job and work again.
Another young disabled person I know was a coworkers son. He was out partying one night and in an impaired state saw three people breaking into a car. He tried to stop them and they beat him very badly. He lost the vision in one eye, the hearing in one ear and has minor brain damage. (The brain damage makes it hard for him to learn and also makes him prone to anger) He is on permanent federal disability since he was 23 or 24, now about 35.
The third young person I know on disability was a coworkers brother. He was hit by a drunk driver when he was a sophmore in college. He is peralyzed on one side and has brain damage bad enough to have the mentality of a 6 year old. He is in his 40s now. His payments are very low because he only worked part-time while in high school and college. The drunk driver had no insurance and no money, so he got nothing from him.
Some people who are disable do not look bad. Just count your blessings that you are not disabled.
My "disabled" city neighbor offered to paint and do other handy work for CASH..... I declined, but he became "abled" pretty quickly.
and so on and so forth....... I think one tells the other and which case worker to try to get.....
There really needs to be a new way of testing and "undo" some of this shit.
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Scot, I'm sure there are people who have scammed the case workers. On the other hand it is possible your "disabled" city neighbor really is disabled, but is able to work slowly or for short periods of time, but not enough to keep an employer satisfied.
My dad had his first hear attack at 37. After a long convalescense, the doctor told he could work at a non physical job. He was a carpenter.
My dad tried a few jobs and settled on being a carpentry instructor at a junior college. He became very active, taught remedial math and repairs for homeowners and joined college committees and volunteer groups and had another massive MI at age 47 and almost died. When my dad left the hospital, the cardiologists said he would never work again and had to stay calm and quiet. My dad was a candidate for open heart surgery or angioplasty, but neither proceedure was invented yet.
As the years went by, my dad got better and began to do little "jobs" for friends and family. Anyone who could stand him working for 15 minutes and then resting for 2 hours. Some jobs would take days, while he visited with whoever he was working for. Open heart surgery was invented and Kaiser had my dad on the waiting list when he died of a third MI at age 60.
So even though there are probably a few people who are scamming the system, I'm convinced most of the people that seem suspicious, are really like my dad, capable of working for a few minutes, or slowly, but not strong enough to hold a real job. You would be happier if you didn't worry about the few scammers and when you see someone like your "disable" city neighbor give him the benefit of the doubt.
My dad had his first hear attack at 37. After a long convalescense, the doctor told he could work at a non physical job. He was a carpenter.
My dad tried a few jobs and settled on being a carpentry instructor at a junior college. He became very active, taught remedial math and repairs for homeowners and joined college committees and volunteer groups and had another massive MI at age 47 and almost died. When my dad left the hospital, the cardiologists said he would never work again and had to stay calm and quiet. My dad was a candidate for open heart surgery or angioplasty, but neither proceedure was invented yet.
As the years went by, my dad got better and began to do little "jobs" for friends and family. Anyone who could stand him working for 15 minutes and then resting for 2 hours. Some jobs would take days, while he visited with whoever he was working for. Open heart surgery was invented and Kaiser had my dad on the waiting list when he died of a third MI at age 60.
So even though there are probably a few people who are scamming the system, I'm convinced most of the people that seem suspicious, are really like my dad, capable of working for a few minutes, or slowly, but not strong enough to hold a real job. You would be happier if you didn't worry about the few scammers and when you see someone like your "disable" city neighbor give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Originally Posted by CARNUTMAMA,Nov 15 2006, 05:17 AM
Scot, I'm sure there are people who have scammed the case workers. On the other hand it is possible your "disabled" city neighbor really is disabled, but is able to work slowly or for short periods of time, but not enough to keep an employer satisfied.
My dad had his first hear attack at 37. After a long convalescense, the doctor told he could work at a non physical job. He was a carpenter.
My dad tried a few jobs and settled on being a carpentry instructor at a junior college. He became very active, taught remedial math and repairs for homeowners and joined college committees and volunteer groups and had another massive MI at age 47 and almost died. When my dad left the hospital, the cardiologists said he would never work again and had to stay calm and quiet. My dad was a candidate for open heart surgery or angioplasty, but neither proceedure was invented yet.
As the years went by, my dad got better and began to do little "jobs" for friends and family. Anyone who could stand him working for 15 minutes and then resting for 2 hours. Some jobs would take days, while he visited with whoever he was working for. Open heart surgery was invented and Kaiser had my dad on the waiting list when he died of a third MI at age 60.
So even though there are probably a few people who are scamming the system, I'm convinced most of the people that seem suspicious, are really like my dad, capable of working for a few minutes, or slowly, but not strong enough to hold a real job. You would be happier if you didn't worry about the few scammers and when you see someone like your "disable" city neighbor give him the benefit of the doubt.
My dad had his first hear attack at 37. After a long convalescense, the doctor told he could work at a non physical job. He was a carpenter.
My dad tried a few jobs and settled on being a carpentry instructor at a junior college. He became very active, taught remedial math and repairs for homeowners and joined college committees and volunteer groups and had another massive MI at age 47 and almost died. When my dad left the hospital, the cardiologists said he would never work again and had to stay calm and quiet. My dad was a candidate for open heart surgery or angioplasty, but neither proceedure was invented yet.
As the years went by, my dad got better and began to do little "jobs" for friends and family. Anyone who could stand him working for 15 minutes and then resting for 2 hours. Some jobs would take days, while he visited with whoever he was working for. Open heart surgery was invented and Kaiser had my dad on the waiting list when he died of a third MI at age 60.
So even though there are probably a few people who are scamming the system, I'm convinced most of the people that seem suspicious, are really like my dad, capable of working for a few minutes, or slowly, but not strong enough to hold a real job. You would be happier if you didn't worry about the few scammers and when you see someone like your "disable" city neighbor give him the benefit of the doubt.
Private Investigators are flooded with workers' compensation cases where employees are faking disability.
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Originally Posted by CARNUTMAMA,Nov 15 2006, 12:17 AM
Scot, I'm sure there are people who have scammed the case workers. On the other hand it is possible your "disabled" city neighbor really is disabled, but is able to work slowly or for short periods of time, but not enough to keep an employer satisfied.
My dad had his first hear attack at 37. After a long convalescense, the doctor told he could work at a non physical job. He was a carpenter.
My dad tried a few jobs and settled on being a carpentry instructor at a junior college. He became very active, taught remedial math and repairs for homeowners and joined college committees and volunteer groups and had another massive MI at age 47 and almost died. When my dad left the hospital, the cardiologists said he would never work again and had to stay calm and quiet. My dad was a candidate for open heart surgery or angioplasty, but neither proceedure was invented yet.
As the years went by, my dad got better and began to do little "jobs" for friends and family. Anyone who could stand him working for 15 minutes and then resting for 2 hours. Some jobs would take days, while he visited with whoever he was working for. Open heart surgery was invented and Kaiser had my dad on the waiting list when he died of a third MI at age 60.
So even though there are probably a few people who are scamming the system, I'm convinced most of the people that seem suspicious, are really like my dad, capable of working for a few minutes, or slowly, but not strong enough to hold a real job. You would be happier if you didn't worry about the few scammers and when you see someone like your "disable" city neighbor give him the benefit of the doubt.
My dad had his first hear attack at 37. After a long convalescense, the doctor told he could work at a non physical job. He was a carpenter.
My dad tried a few jobs and settled on being a carpentry instructor at a junior college. He became very active, taught remedial math and repairs for homeowners and joined college committees and volunteer groups and had another massive MI at age 47 and almost died. When my dad left the hospital, the cardiologists said he would never work again and had to stay calm and quiet. My dad was a candidate for open heart surgery or angioplasty, but neither proceedure was invented yet.
As the years went by, my dad got better and began to do little "jobs" for friends and family. Anyone who could stand him working for 15 minutes and then resting for 2 hours. Some jobs would take days, while he visited with whoever he was working for. Open heart surgery was invented and Kaiser had my dad on the waiting list when he died of a third MI at age 60.
So even though there are probably a few people who are scamming the system, I'm convinced most of the people that seem suspicious, are really like my dad, capable of working for a few minutes, or slowly, but not strong enough to hold a real job. You would be happier if you didn't worry about the few scammers and when you see someone like your "disable" city neighbor give him the benefit of the doubt.
anyway...... there is no way I could ever give these people the benefit of the doubt. There is a HUGE difference in someone who actually had a real job and tried vs all the assholes that I see who never try, never wanted a job and somehow bullshitted their way into free $.
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Sometimes you really can't tell by looking at a person. Since I am physician I see both sides of the scene. I have a patient with seizure disorder and a bad knee(multiple surgeries) who rides the bus to work(not safe to drive due to frequent seizures) and tries to work as much as she can. She would easily qualify for disability.
On the other hand, her husband is on disability for a healed ankle fracture and his fake limp.
On the other hand, her husband is on disability for a healed ankle fracture and his fake limp.
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