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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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A couple of days ago I found myself driving behind a minivan bearing a bumper sticker that read:

IF ANIMALS COULD TALK WE WOULD ALL BE VEGETARIANS

On the one hand, according to Aristotelian logic, this statement is true: it is an implication with a false premise (animals cannot talk), so it is true whether the conclusion is true or false. The printer of the bumper sticker could have had it conclude that "eating ice cream would help you lose weight" or "red lights mean 'GO' and green lights mean 'STOP'" or "credit cards are made from plastic" without changing the truth of the statement.

On the other hand, the conclusion is false. There are, for example, cannibals; their dinner fare can talk.

Apparently the printer of the bumper sticker and the person who plastered it onto the minivan believe that being omnivorous is wrong.

I wonder why. I also wonder why they would choose such a roundabout way of trying to express that sentiment.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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You are correct.
computer scienctist?

Any way, the question is, does that hold true for plants.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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Mathematician.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Wait you are wrong. We are animals, therefore it is True implies false, which is false.

It would only be correct as a universal. "All animals"
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Clearly it depends on whether the quantifier implied between "IF" and "ANIMALS" is existential or universal. I suspect that they intended the latter. I also suspect that they have no clue what a quantifier is.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by magician' date='Feb 7 2005, 11:41 AM
IF ANIMALS COULD TALK WE WOULD ALL BE VEGITARIANS
Should you take someone who can't even spell "vegetarian" right seriously?
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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Fixed.

Thanks.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Heh. Animans CAN talk. They're called "humans." And for the most part, no, we don't eat them. So the bumper sticker is simply pointing out the obvious.

Of course if by "animals" they meant, say, cows - well, that implies a level of intelligence that would likely include tool builting. Such as weapons. So any eating would likely escalate into an all-out war and possibly the destruction of both species.

Alternatively, if other animals were intelligent enough to talk, they would possibly be eating us.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by magician' date='Feb 7 2005, 12:58 PM
Fixed.

Thanks.
Oh... I thought that was a direct quote.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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I've eaten my fiance out 100's of times.
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