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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Ok here's the deal I recently put my 2 weeks in at my current position, this was on the 26th my last day will be the 12th, anyway I had made vacation plans the first week of may, this was approved in march, so i will only be missing 5 days but returning to work the week after the trip for 5 days. The vp is giving me a non rehireable status since i didn't give two weeks (according to him), I checked with hr and they said that i was ok since i was coming back the following week, so far nothing has changed with the vp. other facts i am the only person that knows how to work all of the a large customer accounts as far as billing and revenue goes, i am suppose to train the person taking over when i return. should i say screw it i have a bad status leaving no matter what and take remaining vacation the last week and let them figure out the process, or be the nice guy and train the new person?
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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1) You should have given your 2 weeks after you came back from vacation. You really didn't say if you had another job lined up so I am going with the assumption of "NO".

2) Never burn your bridges, if you staying to train the new guy means you get a better leaving status i say sure why not. You never know when or why you might need that job as a reference.

Good luck with your decision!
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 04:17 AM
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Well sure, if staying would help his status then he wouldn't have asked us this question. It sounds to me that no matter what...he will have non-rehirable status.
I would explain the situation to the VP. Tell him the choices you have, and the choices he has. Just try not to be rude about it.
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 04:18 AM
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I agree. Even if it pisses you off now, you never know who you'll run into down the road a ways.

We just hired a guy who only got an interview because somebody here knew him years ago at a previous job. If my co-worker had trashed him, he would never have been called in for an interview, and would never have known why.
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 05:57 AM
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Your vacation time is still part of the notice. The problem with employers is they realize that in most careers vacation time just means your putting off your work until you get back. This means that they actually have to get someone to do the work now! If your status is not going to change I would barely do anything the last week and hope that they walk you out early. My last job they loved me but they had a policy of walking people out after they gave there two weeks if they knew they weren't going to change their minds. So while they didn't "walk" me out because they liked me so much they told me I had a free vacation and I said my good byes and collected my stuff. I then got a call a few days later "can you help me" was another co-worker told them to check with the Pres and if they were okay with it I'd do it. I got a call thanking me from the VP but he said he thought it was inappropriate for them to ask me and he wasn't comfortable. Needless to say I'm still well liked and every now and then i go back and visit. I still walk around the whole place like I work there whenever i do go back. It's nice to know that bridge isn't burned!
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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If possible, try to reason with your VP. I think you are ok with taking vacation during your two weeks (I did the same thing last year at a very large firm and was fine). But don't stick it to him like "take away the non rehire status, or I won't train anyone..." That will piss him off. But actually, as I write this, I thought, what's to stop him from agreeing to remove the non rehire status, have you train the people, and then once you're gone, he can just put it right back on...

So just steal a bunch of office supplies and sell them to get your revenge..
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 08:52 AM
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can i get a .02 cent pencil?

what i would do is talk to the VP. maybe compromise with him and extend your two weeks so that you have time to train the person.
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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I wouldn't for the simple reason that its wrong and it will ruin your rep.
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Train your replacement to do a lousy job.
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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If the VP is going to give you non-rehireable status no matter what, then I would say screw it and take off without training the new person. If they want to play hard ball, then play hard ball. You're in the right here, as your HR department has confirmed. I do agree that it's not a good idea to burn bridges in most cases. But in this case, I'd personally rather sleep well at night knowing I didn't take bullshit from the VP.

That having been said, naturally, it would be optimal if you could work out some sort of mutually-beneficial compromise with the VP. It might wake up his sense of reason if you tell him that you're planning on just leaving without training the new guy. At the least, you don't have too much to lose.
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