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Jim Carrey...an American?

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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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OK, I'll admit it...I really don't like Jim Carrey, and I am not a fan of Hollywood culture and the infatuation that many Americans seem to have with these yahoos. But I have a problem here...

I never think anything those people there say is sincere, so I should take this with a grain of salt...but unless my understanding of immigration law is incorrect, I am really bugged by this clown on this. He wants to be a "dual" citizen...this was something that I understood only to be available to people born to one American and one Canadian parent, but were actually born in America. Am I wrong on that? Can you just "become" a dual citizen if you are born in another country?

I just heard this news report saying that he will never give up his Canadian citizenship, but that he wants to "be a part of this" - meaning America, I presume. He's a Canadian born adult (more or less) human being with two Canadian parents...he CANNOT become a DUAL citizen...he can only become a US citizen, in which case he would renounce his Canadian citizenship.

Now, unless I have misunderstood immigration law, this looks to me like yet another PR ploy from this weasel to make his new movie (which I won't name) an even greater success...what a turd!

Can someone verify this? What about it you Canucks? How does the citizenship game work? Am I right on this?

I don't know why, but this bugs the crap out of me!

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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 08:40 PM
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From what I understand, Carrey can infact maintain a "dual" citizenship. However, it is imperative that the word "dual" be defined carefully. Since Jim was born in Canada, he is automatically granted a Canadian Citizenship. Even if he obtains citizenship in another country (I'm not sure how US laws/green cards etc. work), Carrey would not have to forfeit his Canadian Citizenship, thus making him a "dual" citizen, with all the privileges that would normally come with living in either country.

A case in point; I myself was born in the UK to two British parents. Hence, I am a British Citizen. Now that I have lived in Canada for over three years, I can, upon successful application, become a Canadian Citizen without having to give up my British Citizenship. I would then hold two passports, making me a "dual" citizen. I have chosen however, not to do this, since I would lose all health/dental/educational/pension benefits granted to me as a British Citizen. It makes more sense to me to live in Canada (cheaper std of living) and yet, claim my Pension from the UK when I retire, since the future of the Canadian Pension Plan is so uncertain!

Sorry for the long winded response, but I hope it answers the question.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 08:49 PM
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Hmmmm, interesting, VTEXTC...

I am hearing that in the States, it works like this: Once you become a US citizen, you cannot have have citizenship in any other country except if you were born to one parent who was from another country. I have a Canadian girl I'm seeing every now and again, I will ask her. But we have talked about this and she indicates that I'm correct in how th US laws work...unless I'm misunderstanding or mis-remembering something.

Damn, I really want another reason not to like this guy!

Anyone know about US law?

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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 08:56 PM
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it's ok greg.....i just don't like the guy....i don't really need a reason.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by dbw
it's ok greg.....i just don't like the guy....i don't really need a reason.

LOL!

Yea, maybe I'm reading too much into this, eh?



Hey, btw, did you see that our friend Laurie is back? She was asking me about Preludes, so I told her to post here...she would love to hear from you... Her post is here somewhere...
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 09:01 PM
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Greg..I suppose it depends on which country is the matter of discussion. It could very well be that once you get a US citizenship, you are forced to forfeit any other citizenship that you have. Just as, if I get my Canadian citizenship, British Immigration law dictates that I lose all my British Privileges, with the exception of only my passport. If it were the other way around, I doubt that Canadian law would have anything to say about a Canadian born person obtaining citizenship elsewhere. Again as you said someone who is more aware of US law would be better qualified to help on this one.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 09:08 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by VTEXTC
[B]Greg..I suppose it depends on which country is the matter of discussion.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 09:10 PM
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i don't think there are any laws prohibiting a person from having more than one citizenship - my wife's best friend has 3 passports from the US, Germany, and Taiwan. i believe the only time this issue comes to question is when that person is in a sensitive position in the government or becoming an elected official. in Taiwan, anyone can have multiple citizenship if they so desire, but if you become a government official, you must give up that other citizenship. for example: Dr. Yuan T. Lee, a Nobel laureate in chemistry in 1986 was a naturalized US citizen who was "invited" back to Taiwan as the President of Academia Sinica. because that position was a VERY sensitive government position (God knows what kind of goodies he gets to supervise and watch over), he had to renounce his US citizenship.
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Old Dec 16, 2001 | 10:36 PM
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OMG!!! you mean "nos2000laurie"?????sigh....i can't wait to lay my eyes on her posts!!

it's been a long,dry spell..
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 06:29 AM
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I'll use myself as a case in point.

My Wife is American, born and raised in California (LA / SAC)

I'm Canadian, Born and Raised in Taxland....

I married her, and we both applied for dual citizenship. I got mine first from the US a year ago, so I do have a green card, can live and work anywhere in the US.

She is just finishing up her dual citizenship.

The big kicker for me getting the GC first was she maintains a residence in the US (PObox and a rental home we rent out), I put up the funds for a gaurantee (75k) as to my status as someone who could make a living etc. Went rather quickly, about 6 months.

Unless you Denounce you're citizenship in either Canada or the US, commit treason (ala that Taliban kid from Cali) or take citizenship in an enemy state you can retain you're born citizenship.

I would have liked to have gotten my EU citizenship to round things out, but I don't think they let you have more than two.

Jim Carey is likely working on one of a couple levels. He has over a million dollars to invest into a business (Say a production company). He was married to an American for a few hours, so that won't count...you have to maintain the relationship for atleast 2 years. He could be in country on a special visa (actors and musicans get them) and or is being sponsored by his employer. I'm figuring either he's got the coin invested or he's being sponsored by the studio.

That Will and Grace guy just did the same thing this year...atleast I think it was him.

Maybe he claimed refugee status because of the taxes he'd have to pay here ?
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