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it seems like quite a threat to many. especially in college
but most dont seem to know their option of proof

it is illegal, however, you do not see people getting sued by others because your friend burns you a cd for free no matter how many times they do.
another example is i-tunes. you can share those with fellow users correct?
anyone sued because of this?
or is it because the device is sold worldwide and music shared worldwide with the fact big business has something to do with it?

and to discuss "L"emon"W"ird program wont be completely mentioned

as KZAh and others out there have been taken out with lawsuits and what not

a person to person sharing network, (not the network or program itself) are getting individuals screwd over for the fact that a song file already paid for up the line is being shared to others for free
and for what i am seeing this uproar of sued college people as a statement and overall cost is.. that each song shared has to be sold, but it is illegal to sell something like this by someone who isnt a vender or who doesnt have the legal rights to the file or song. basically saying if i bought a music cd, the cd stops there, if i sold it to a friend i can probably be sued (implying what peer to peer does without monitary amounts)

or sharing music through instant messanger services? thats basically free, only thing there is a verbal agreement to accept the song file.. but its free still to the person recieving it, should they get sued because the legal right holder isnt getting their cut off this?
how about mp3 players, your able to share to other mp3 players out there, and some come with deals offering a certain amount of FREE songs
and who says its going to stop with the person who downloads these files to listen to, he/she are just as capable as anyone else to share those FREE offered files (music, movie, video whatever) to who ever the F*** they please, it wont stop after the next person who recieves these files either, they can also share to who ever and so one

so the rights to sue a person from downloading something for FREE is purchased in one way or another by someone who initially decided to share these files by choice without SELLING, which is even more illegal to do, to other people

people who in fact use a program to share their files from their computers that somewhere along the line WAS purchased and SHARED by another who recieved it free by the INITIAL holder who had PURCHASED it... so how far down the line does this file have a value to its rights holder

[EDIT] was bad esxample, bad bad bad bad bad [EDIT]

and the company that origonally produced it isnt seeing this money because its illegal to make profit off something you dont have rights to.. so SHARING it, ISNT selling it, and your NOT making a profit from it.. the only thing we know is its illegal to do so, sooooo what am i missing here?

any input to this very delicate yet dangerous thread?

 

Itunes allows you peer-to-peer (p2p) listening, not download the actual file. So, call that one "moot." It's a broadcasting service, which is different than being a distribution mode/node. . . there's an important distinction to be made between listening to a song and posessing the file.

The artists have a right to present and distribute their music as they see fit.

So, if you have the file, and that file was obtained by a means that is not sanctioned by the artist, or by the owner of publisher's rights, is that not theft?

The record companies that the RIAA predominantly represent are dinosaurs. However, they still have a legal obligation and right to pay their artists (or themselves, if they own the artists' catalog).

 

they specifically say it now that you can't trade or sell them, even if you're not making profit.

everyone does it, but who's gonna crack down on it? I'm sure those people who protest does it too.

besides, the record company make enough money as it is. If the sale of the albums go down, they'll raise the concert prices and that's something you can't get for free.... unless you know someone that knows someone. lol

 

Umm, since when did the record companies dictate ticket prices?

Is there some vast development in the music business to which I was unaware?

 

this is a bad example not at all comparable to car sales.

 

yes, my mistake S202. caught me in a rant and i just let loose
struggleing for a similarity in any way

may i delete said example by means of insanity?