Old, old, old news. Gary Bernsen was the onsite commander (and See Gary Schroen), with the CIA.

First of all couldn't get air support, WTF. Then got limited air. Then ordered to back off. Then ordered out by TOMMY FRANKS.

The afgan issue is sheer imagination, those retards iand moral cowards in the CoC couldn't lie to save their own empty souls. Find him, shoot him with an ak, and give a medal to the local warlord for killing him.

 

Thats a different account than this book. For air support they had b52's, C130's, B1's and F-16's.

 

Ok, somebody clue me in on the Delta vs. Rangers vs. Green Berets vs. Navy Seals vs. Marines vs. etc. stuff please. I mean, who's more elite and special? And why so many?

 

The ones we don't know/hear about are the bad asses..You know those Tom Clancy Splinter cell mofo's

 

US Army Rangers are basically an elite infantry force. their MOS is that of an infantryman, but they get more toys, have higher standards, and do a lot of work with SF. SF aka the green berets are US Army and specialize in unconventional warfare. in war operations they do a lot of highly specialized missions with lots of assets, and smaller groups. the same can be said about marine force recon, though their specialty is supposed to be gathering info behind enemy lines. SEALS get a lot of credit too, as they have the highest entry level of training for all the special operation units. mind u all these units have a degree of cross training. for example - there is only one airborne school: US Army airborne school, and it's used by all branches. when i went through there were BUDs (SEALs in training) guys, air force pararescue, force recon, sf, etc etc there along with me.

now.... Delta is another world. anything the above units have, delta will dwarf. their training/missions/assets, everything is pretty much unknown. they invite nearly anyone to try out, as their selection process surely weeds out everyone. mainly they try to pool from SF, Ranger Battalion, and some infantryman.

the reason so many is each branch has their own thing and they technically specialize in different things. SEALs aka Sea Air Land, small unit tactics for the navy. Ranger battalions - elite infantry for the army. SF - small unit tactics, specialized missions and unconventional warfare from the army. force recon, small unit tactics, intelligence gathering behind enemy lines for the marines/department of the navy.
once again - they can all work together or all share info based of various things. Delta is the exception as they operate at a whole different level using cutting edge technology, and are extremely secretive.

that answer your questions?

btw, just got out the army as an infantry paratrooper in the army, deployed to both iraq and afghanistan, and have worked / interacted with some of all these folks

 

[QUOTE=Yellow_S,Oct 18 2008, 03:01 AM] Ok, somebody clue me in on the Delta vs. Rangers vs. Green Berets vs. Navy Seals vs. Marines vs. etc. stuff please.

 

Yes, thank you for answering. Maybe now, I can pretend to be a Delta. Just kidding.

Oh, does each airborne division have their own SF units? My father was a green beret for the 82nd Airborne.

 

Wow! Didn't know Delta was so elite. But I guess that's why Chuck Norris was one in Vietnam.

 

it is disgusting that these fine men risk their lives, go out to do a damn near impossible job in a very difficult environment, come *very* close... but are hobbled and held back by fucking politicians and politically-connected knobs sitting thousands of miles away, who care more about how to paint the perfect political picture to assure *they* come out in the best and prettiest light--irrespective of the Delta Force lives they are risking-- who then get to go to the bar to smoke cigars and drink martinis, make love to their girlfriends and wives (in that order) and generally never once give a rats ass about these outstanding individuals in our elite forces who could each die a terrible death that very night in some godforsaken land thousands of miles from their homes and families, and who may never once be recognized for their service to our country.

disgusting.

 

naw man. i just got out the 82nd, and the airborne units have maroon berets. there are no SF in the 82nd, but there are a bunch of SF at the same base (fort bragg)