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I headed out to the local bar tonight because 2 of my really great friends, both girls, are moving away for good. We had probably 20 people there for the occasion and the other 30 people in the bar were just random people (20-25 y.o. kids) from another town. Eventually towards the end of the evening I over here one of the kids making fun of two of the girl's we were with calling them fat and basically f**k them out of sympathy yada yada yada...runnning there mouths and saying all types of disrespect to them. I then walk of to the kids and say hey guys don't say that to them, you have no right to. The situation escalates to a screaming match back and forth, obviously with us in the girls' defense.
We then end up going outside(My friends and I), and the kid's eventually follow us out as well as the owner of the bar and everyone is screaming at us, with the typical "I'm a tough guy" phrases like "Yeah get out of here", "Just hit me then", etc...I'd have no problem laying these guys out...and that's the honest truth. To be the bigger man though, and out of respect for the bar owner I loaded up the friends who had driven with me and we started to head out. Then one of the kid's from outside runs up and punches the back window of the truck as hard as he can...no damage but WTF?!
My question to you is, how do you guys normally react in situations like this. When you're only trying to stand up for what's right and people need to throw on their beer muscles and step up to you. I'm not one to hold back my opinion when I feel like someone I care about is being directly disrespected for no reason and it seems to spawn situations like this. If nothing else thanks for letting me vent to you all because right about now I feel like this guy >
We then end up going outside(My friends and I), and the kid's eventually follow us out as well as the owner of the bar and everyone is screaming at us, with the typical "I'm a tough guy" phrases like "Yeah get out of here", "Just hit me then", etc...I'd have no problem laying these guys out...and that's the honest truth. To be the bigger man though, and out of respect for the bar owner I loaded up the friends who had driven with me and we started to head out. Then one of the kid's from outside runs up and punches the back window of the truck as hard as he can...no damage but WTF?!
My question to you is, how do you guys normally react in situations like this. When you're only trying to stand up for what's right and people need to throw on their beer muscles and step up to you. I'm not one to hold back my opinion when I feel like someone I care about is being directly disrespected for no reason and it seems to spawn situations like this. If nothing else thanks for letting me vent to you all because right about now I feel like this guy >
You said you guys were outside already right? I've been in plenty of these situations. Always think 10 steps ahead to what would happen in that exact scenario if you were to retaliate. Then think 10 steps ahead to work out a scenario, as in "if he does this, then I'll do that instead." This should take but a split second to come to a conclusion about what you should do. Back in the days, I had friends who'll sock the other dude the moment he spouted off his mouth, but it's always come to a bad ending. I'll only retaliate when I know no one I care about or myself will get in trouble. If everyone (that you know) is going to be A okay, sock away!
I hate to admit it, but back in the days, I was one of those fellows who would have drilled him the moment he continued to lip off after I told him to shut up. But, I am an old fogie now and the world was a little different.
It seems to me that for the most part, back then, if you didn't have the parts to back up what you were swinging your gate about, then you were much less likely to take it too the next level. And we could usually tell you who the mouthpieces were just by looking at them anyways. So you told them what you wanted them to do and usually they moved back into their place. If they didn't...I hate this notion we have nowadays that nothing can be settled by fisticuffs.
Nowadays I see too many people willing to spout cause they count on their 'posse' (?) to jump in and bail em out and usually the moutpiece steps off to the side. It doesn't take courage to talk, just a mouth... And don't forget weapons. Knives, guns, bats etc. We didnt have to put up with shit like that because pulling anything would only guarantee the puller that his personal level of pain was gonna increase. Then again I come from a small factory town so....
Anyhow I like to think I have become wiser. I dont even know if I would have asked them to be quiet...I may have just rounded up my friends and found a new place to get together. The one thing I have learned as I approach fifty, is life is a lot shorter than I used to believe and one hell of a lot more precious. I have lost too many friends to wantonly put any one of them in danger through my stupidity.
I know this was a long answer but I think you did the right thing. You all woke up the next morning and no one was hurt not even your window.
It seems to me that for the most part, back then, if you didn't have the parts to back up what you were swinging your gate about, then you were much less likely to take it too the next level. And we could usually tell you who the mouthpieces were just by looking at them anyways. So you told them what you wanted them to do and usually they moved back into their place. If they didn't...I hate this notion we have nowadays that nothing can be settled by fisticuffs.
Nowadays I see too many people willing to spout cause they count on their 'posse' (?) to jump in and bail em out and usually the moutpiece steps off to the side. It doesn't take courage to talk, just a mouth... And don't forget weapons. Knives, guns, bats etc. We didnt have to put up with shit like that because pulling anything would only guarantee the puller that his personal level of pain was gonna increase. Then again I come from a small factory town so....
Anyhow I like to think I have become wiser. I dont even know if I would have asked them to be quiet...I may have just rounded up my friends and found a new place to get together. The one thing I have learned as I approach fifty, is life is a lot shorter than I used to believe and one hell of a lot more precious. I have lost too many friends to wantonly put any one of them in danger through my stupidity.
I know this was a long answer but I think you did the right thing. You all woke up the next morning and no one was hurt not even your window.
what I've done is calmly tell the bartender one of the patrons is trying to start a fight, and ask him/her to call the police. That gets their attention, and demonstrates a level head and intelligence. Why ruin your night over some liquored up idiot with personal issues? Let the police and bar handle it, and go back to enjoying your night out with friends.
You did the right thing. There is more than one way to handle a situation, and yours was fine.
I would write a short letter to the town council where the bar is located, so they are aware of the type of establishment the bar owner is running, and the kind of environment he tolerates. Copy the police department as well. It's possible this situation is not a rare occurence, and IMHO, the bar staff is obligated to address that kind of issue when it starts rather than letting patrons be forced to leave to find someplace enjoyable. Which is another reason to tell the bartender when there is an issue - if you don't make it clear the other party is the aggressor, they can't know it wasn't you and your friends looking for a reason to fight.
You did the right thing. There is more than one way to handle a situation, and yours was fine.
I would write a short letter to the town council where the bar is located, so they are aware of the type of establishment the bar owner is running, and the kind of environment he tolerates. Copy the police department as well. It's possible this situation is not a rare occurence, and IMHO, the bar staff is obligated to address that kind of issue when it starts rather than letting patrons be forced to leave to find someplace enjoyable. Which is another reason to tell the bartender when there is an issue - if you don't make it clear the other party is the aggressor, they can't know it wasn't you and your friends looking for a reason to fight.
Originally Posted by GT_2003,Jan 13 2008, 03:20 PM
what I've done is calmly tell the bartender one of the patrons is trying to start a fight, and ask him/her to call the police. That gets their attention, and demonstrates a level head and intelligence. Why ruin your night over some liquored up idiot with personal issues? Let the police and bar handle it, and go back to enjoying your night out with friends.
You did the right thing. There is more than one way to handle a situation, and yours was fine.
I would write a short letter to the town council where the bar is located, so they are aware of the type of establishment the bar owner is running, and the kind of environment he tolerates. Copy the police department as well. It's possible this situation is not a rare occurence, and IMHO, the bar staff is obligated to address that kind of issue when it starts rather than letting patrons be forced to leave to find someplace enjoyable. Which is another reason to tell the bartender when there is an issue - if you don't make it clear the other party is the aggressor, they can't know it wasn't you and your friends looking for a reason to fight.
You did the right thing. There is more than one way to handle a situation, and yours was fine.
I would write a short letter to the town council where the bar is located, so they are aware of the type of establishment the bar owner is running, and the kind of environment he tolerates. Copy the police department as well. It's possible this situation is not a rare occurence, and IMHO, the bar staff is obligated to address that kind of issue when it starts rather than letting patrons be forced to leave to find someplace enjoyable. Which is another reason to tell the bartender when there is an issue - if you don't make it clear the other party is the aggressor, they can't know it wasn't you and your friends looking for a reason to fight.
If he couldn't even break a window with his fist... you should have taken him.
Just kidding.
You did the right thing in that situation.
Of course, the really right thing would have been to take your friends to a restaurant instead of a bar... if you lay down with dogs, you'll wake up with fleas.
Just kidding.
You did the right thing in that situation.
Of course, the really right thing would have been to take your friends to a restaurant instead of a bar... if you lay down with dogs, you'll wake up with fleas.
Haha I hear you Ckit, it was actually the girl's idea. They've been our regular drinking buddies for the the last 5 years so I guess it just seemed fitting to end it where we began. But thanks everyone for your input!
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Beer + young dumb and full of cum= stupid dangerous situations.
You did the right thing. I'd have probably run the guy over with your truck.
The problem is that there is no honor anymore so situations like that can result in dangerous violence.
Just know you are better than those shits, and unfortunatly you can't change them.
You did the right thing. I'd have probably run the guy over with your truck.
The problem is that there is no honor anymore so situations like that can result in dangerous violence.
Just know you are better than those shits, and unfortunatly you can't change them.
Originally Posted by CKit,Jan 13 2008, 06:18 PM
Of course, the really right thing would have been to take your friends to a restaurant instead of a bar... if you lay down with dogs, you'll wake up with fleas.

Scope out the place before you have your function. Even if the owner is a friend; consider the event to the venue to the crowd.







