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Firefox can be compromised just like IE, if not more so. The only reason it is more secure is because no one is using it as much as IE. As its market share grows so will the holes and once its big enough you'll be bitching about it just like IE. Fact is IE has far more functionality. If you have a clue you can protect yourself from active X controls every time. New security (if you bother to download it and update your software) blocks all active x controls unless you give them permission. Basically IE is far superiour to firefox, if your educated. IE is a powerfull tool that can act like fine grit sandpaper or tear through metal like the jaws of death. You have to have enough knowledge to use it properly. Unfortunatly, most users are morons, for them firefox is a reasonable solution. Microsoft mediocrity is what drives the technology market. Lets see, office, windows, server software, .net mappoint etc etc... I havn't found one OS, crapx included, that beats windows. Not one office (open office coral suite) that comes close to the ease of use and functionality. Hate microsoft all you want but if you need to get the job done efficently its all that is worth using. Graphics, video go to apple. Otherwise you're dealing with half baked products that just don't cut it.
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Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Nov 14 2005, 06:17 PM
Hate microsoft all you want but if you need to get the job done efficently its all that worth using.
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Originally Posted by exceltoexcel,Nov 14 2005, 06:17 PM
Firefox can be compromised just like IE, if not more so.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Nov 14 2005, 11:37 PM
Software shouldn't be designed so you need "a clue" to use it safely. That's like giving a kid a loaded gun and blaming it when it shoots someone because it should have had "a clue". IE is decrepit, does not conform to international standards, and has almost none of the features found in modern browsers.
What features are you talking about. Considering the enhancements made recently like tabs and god knows all the po-up blocking add ins you can get.
If you're educated IE isn't a big hole.
How many people out there never downloaded a patch in their life. Are still running windows 98? Don't use a router, a firewall, or virus protection? Oh look if I point this loaded gun to my head and pull this trigger.... Guess what, windows has a free built in firewall, you can get free spyware protection, and if you change your settings in IE you can block nearly everything. Guess the reason why its not so good is, well, kids with loaded guns.
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Oh I thought we were all adults here. Let me change this statement That's like giving an adult a loaded gun and blaming the adult when they shoot someone because they should have a clue.
Guess what, windows has a free built in firewall, you can get free spyware protection, and if you change your settings in IE you can block nearly everything
Thats not relevant here though - the point is with IE you can still simply go to a web page that is fully allowed by all your security and firewalls, and still get infected. Active X is just bad, and you shouldn't have to flip a whole bunch of settings to make your computer safe when it could come from the factory that way if the basic programming was decent.
Firefox is free, it works better, or at least just as well as IE, and it offers a lot of functionailty IE doesn't. Here's the extension page:
https://addons.mozilla.org/extension...cation=firefox
And some of my favorite extensions:
http://www.bugmenot.com/
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/morei...ication=firefox
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/morei...umpg=10&id=1269
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/morei...numpg=10&id=636
https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/morei...umpg=10&id=1368
But there are tons more.
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Nov 15 2005, 12:37 PM
Windows XP SP2 has a built in firewall, and you're right, there is a woefully low portion of the public with the latest Windows OS and all the requisite updates.
Thats not relevant here though - the point is with IE you can still simply go to a web page that is fully allowed by all your security and firewalls, and still get infected. Active X is just bad, and you shouldn't have to flip a whole bunch of settings to make your computer safe when it could come from the factory that way if the basic programming was decent.
Firefox is free, it works better, or at least just as well as IE, and it offers a lot of functionailty IE doesn't.
Thats not relevant here though - the point is with IE you can still simply go to a web page that is fully allowed by all your security and firewalls, and still get infected. Active X is just bad, and you shouldn't have to flip a whole bunch of settings to make your computer safe when it could come from the factory that way if the basic programming was decent.
Firefox is free, it works better, or at least just as well as IE, and it offers a lot of functionailty IE doesn't.
exceltoexcel has pointed out that you can literally make your machine incapable of using the internet by tailoring your protections in IE. If the capability is there, I don't see that you have a foot to stand on, except perhaps that you have to set up those things yourself to get similar protection to what Firefox offers out of the box.