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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kremlin,Jun 29 2010, 12:32 PM
Company owned locker = no expectation of privacy.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by espelirS2K,Jun 29 2010, 01:12 PM
I'm of the believer if you have nothing to hide.. who cares?
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JonBoy,Jun 29 2010, 01:07 PM
When something is stolen, someone has broken that trust. It warrants a search, in my opinion. If it's company-wide, not just specific people, it's relatively anonymous and not targeted so it shouldn't be personal to the employees.
yes. Someone may have stolen the phone but searching everyone implies that no employees can be trusted.

is the morale of 60 employees worth $500?
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by espelirS2K,Jun 29 2010, 01:12 PM
I'm just sayin' maybe there was other things in there that they didn't want the boss man seeing.....
If you dont want the bossman seeing what youre hiding, then dont bring it to work
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by S2020,Jun 29 2010, 04:02 PM
yes. Someone may have stolen the phone but searching everyone implies that no employees can be trusted.

is the morale of 60 employees worth $500?
You're pointing to the search as showing that no employee can be trusted. The employer can point to the stolen phone as showing that no employee can be trusted. Just depends which perspective you choose.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by S2020,Jun 29 2010, 03:02 PM
yes. Someone may have stolen the phone but searching everyone implies that no employees can be trusted.

is the morale of 60 employees worth $500?
True, but CYA dictates you search everyone, including the CEO. Otherwise you open yourself up to profiling.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithMajkasays,Jun 29 2010, 03:02 PM
If you dont want the bossman seeing what youre hiding, then dont bring it to work
There are ri-tards in the world
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by S2020,Jun 29 2010, 10:02 PM
yes. Someone may have stolen the phone but searching everyone implies that no employees can be trusted.

is the morale of 60 employees worth $500?
Searching only a few lockers and not all would be a big problem for me.

Why do you trust THEM and not ME?
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 04:32 PM
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In order to search private lockers (even within the company's ownership), there needs to be consent by the locker users/owners. There have been many court rulings in this very matter. In this case, the company was in the wrong. Likewise, schools cannot automatically search through lockers and private things without consent, even though the lockers belong to the schools. Again, there have been court rulings in that matter too.

P.S. Those 2 employees will surely lose their jobs; maybe not instantly but in the near future. The only reason a company needs is: downsizing or "you're no longer needed in this position".
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Steponme,Jun 29 2010, 04:32 PM
In order to search private lockers (even within the company's ownership), there needs to be consent by the locker users/owners. There have been many court rulings in this very matter. In this case, the company was in the wrong. Likewise, schools cannot automatically search through lockers and private things without consent, even though the lockers belong to the schools. Again, there have been court rulings in that matter too.

P.S. Those 2 employees will surely lose their jobs; maybe not instantly but in the near future. The only reason a company needs is: downsizing or "you're no longer needed in this position".
Quite the opposite. The reasonable suspicion standard has been upheld for searches of school lockers, desks, company vehicles, company lockers, company offices, etc.

There's no expectation of privacy in a company owned locker unless there is some contract indicating as such.
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