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No more speed camera in AZ

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Old Jan 3, 2011 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by G,Dec 31 2010, 10:41 AM
The major issue with them is that it shifts the burden of proof from law enforcement to the accused. This is unconstitutional as it changes our legal system from one of innocent until proven guilty to one that is of guilty until you can prove that you are innocent.
agree.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 07:45 AM
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Guess the AZ crooks with have to steal with other methods!

oh ya and F the police!
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.,Jan 2 2011, 07:13 PM
I think speed cameras are BS as well but I am very skeptical about quotes like that. I can see how there would be an increase in rear end accidents as people try to avoid the tickets and slam on their brakes. However, I would argue that the red light cameras are no more to blame than a police officer sitting in his car at the same intersection. It takes two motorists driving poorly to create the above-mentioned scenario (assuming that's what you're referring to as the increase in accidents but please don't let me put words in your mouth).

Additionally, to lump all accidents into the same category seems like useless information. I suspect that even if there was a considerable increase in rear end accidents as a result of these cameras that it's still probably nets an improvement in terms of loss of life or serious injury in the sense that someone being T-boned when they run a red light is a more dangerous proposition.

Again, I agree that cameras like this are BS but I think that blanket statements like that are misleading at best.

Again, I'm doing a bunch of speculating here and mean no disrespect.
You do your research. It's a blanket statement because there is NO evidence to support the reduction in accidents as a result of such cameras, however in a Texas study where the cameras were placed accident rates rose. You can find a bunch of other studies if you know how to use google.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 02:05 PM
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noting worse then the speed tax. and states that depend on them in order to fulfill their budgets.
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