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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
You're only thinking about this from one point of view...look at all parties involved.

Essentially, if a friend gives me a song for free, then yes I am not paying for it and am not spending money on something that would otherwise require me to pay for ownership. I understand why pirating is considered stealing by some.
He only asked me a question from one point of view, so I only answered it as such...
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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very good, sir. See post edit.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
Perfect example, I posted a video of me driving the S with a song playing in the background. It was rejected by Youtube, citing that I had copywritten material in my video. I jumped through a few hoops to get it uploaded with the song playing (as in e-signing a document stating that the music playing was either on the radio or I legally own it) and I could post it. That said, this new bill could sue Youtube, who in turn would sue me for posting the vid.
Yes because you did not state your fair use act. That's not jumping through hoops; that's following the law. But this bill PIPA/SOPA is looking to erase that all together. There would be no use period. Your video would be taken down for singing N'Sync in the shower. Google would be forced to remove that from queries. Your ISP would be responsible for blocking sites linking your video, etc.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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Exactly. Hope this thing gets shot down.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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And this isn't just about song/movies.

There would be no more video game reviews; television reviews; music reviews; movie reviews; hell even sourcing news content wouldn't fly. Infact this site, s2ki would be shut down.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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All in all, this is an infringement on the 1st amendment. What's the difference between someone singing a song on the street vs. on youtube? The only difference is the amount of people it can reach...that's it. Other than that, NOTHING!
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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I'm all for artists rights and whatnot wanting to protect themselves, but handing the internet to the government is NOT how you accomplish that. And you hit the nail on the head, this is a blatant attack on our first amendment rights (not that that should surprise anyone in the LEAST bit).

Infact I'm pretty sure I couldn't even read a Reuters news article on youtube.
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
All in all, this is an infringement on the 1st amendment. What's the difference between someone singing a song on the street vs. on youtube? The only difference is the amount of people it can reach...that's it. Other than that, NOTHING!

But aren't you using someone else's words in the first place?
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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 05:53 PM
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And? Should singing along to a song in the car with friends be illegal? If I own a song, I can do whatever I want with it...including, and not limited to, f@#king singing the damn thing.
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 05:51 AM
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Artists deserve to be paid for their music when it is used by 3rd parties for profit. If a person is making enough money on ads from youtube partnership, they need to license any music they use. HOWEVER - and this is a big however - there is already a system in place for artists to complain if they are NOT getting their fair share.

This is a valid argument about fair use and copyright, and I encourage you to continue. However, I feel the need to point this out in case anyone reading isn't clear on it: this entire discussion has nothing to do with the bill in question. The bill in question is bullshit, overreaching Chinese-firewall style legislation and needs to be rejected *even if you think copyright needs reform.*

*side note: Fair Use is addressed in copyright law but it isn't nearly as clear cut as some of you are making it out to be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use
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