So let me start off by saying before hand so this is not to be taken on the offense. I'm not Catholic/Christian or any branch, I am spiritual, and I do believe in 'God' albeit I think it's quite different than the biblical one, but that's neither here nor there, and not what this is about. I just want to make clear that I want to keep this as focused as possible. Any hint of this thread turning into some sort of war and I'll just lock it. I have a question about two verses, so I'm wondering if any followers could help me out (I'm using bible.cc):


Genesis 1:26
Who is us? Were they active participants in our creation? Or did god simply counsel them? Then...

Genesis 3:22
So who is it that too, lives forever with god. I always understood heaven as being eternal life, after life. I'm under the impression Christianity doesn't believe in rebirth correct? So this is implying that something else between us, and god, is actively alive for eternity. So who are these eternal beings? I guess the only thing that comes to mind are the archangels?

If anyone could help, I'd appreciate it

 

Well, I'm glad you're not a branch.

 

different bibles have different verses. The Catholic bible and the king james version bible, their old testaments are different. The new testaments are almost similar. A lot of people don't pay much attention to the old testament, but that's where Catholics get their religion from, like praying for the dead, purgatory, original sin, etc.

From your verses you provided, " And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.""

Moses wrote Genesis, so he could be referring it in first person.

Religion is a big topic controversy and will be argued until judgment day. Of course a lot of people will disagree with me, but that's ok. As long as we believe that Jesus is our Savior then its all good.

good luck with your research, God bless

 

Well it says, God says (meaning god is speaking "let us" which would mean he's in counsel with one or more being(s) right? Because he's suggesting that to whomever he's speaking to, he wants them in.

Thanks for the good wishes

 

 

I think you're reading too much into God referring to Himself in the plural form. For one thing, I don't know offhand what the original translation of that verse was... so any analysis of it in this English form is questionable. You might want to just do a quick look online for a breakdown of the verses from original to English, preferably one with some explanations as to why certain words were chosen.

For another thing, it could simply be in the plural due to the multiple facets of God, the Holy Trinity. Or, as you said, the "us" could refer to God and the Angels.

Regardless, I'm entirely 100% positive that you're asking in the wrong place. I'm not even remotely religious and know nothing about Biblical studies. My 2 cents is that you're reading too much into the word "us."

 

Perhaps, but it appears so few times that it seems purposeful and apparent. I've been up and down looking for the word us and unless I'm missing something, I can't find it (in this context) at all. Then again, you make a great point about the translation; it could be flawed. I was just more wondering if people in the "inside" knew what this was referring to (if at all). I didn't know where else to put it, street encounters maybe?

 

Bibles are written by people. Don't read too much into them.

 

I don't that's why I'm a "non-believer". I just like exploring religion(s), and see'ing where they overlap

 

Whiteflash, from the same site Bible.cc:

http://bible.cc/genesis/1-26.htm

Talks a bit about God using the plural "us"

Also:

http://bible.cc/genesis/3-22.htm