Question/Conversation about 2 bible verses
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you are seeming to forget that Jesus was God in the flesh. you are implying that they are separate. they are three parts and one in the same. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Jesus did die for our sins. He conquered death and rose again. then he ascended to heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father until it is His time to return.
If "son" is Jesus, and Jesus is god in flesh, and god had yet to create flesh (no humanity), then how was god talking to son? That makes no sense. Unless he was talking to himself in the future? I for example see God counseling Archangel Metatron much more likely than him, counseling himself in the future, in a form that he hasn't even yet to design. The archangels have always been depicted as human-like; or perhaps put into the context of 1:26; humanity is angel-like?
It just seems like the trinity is a stretch of the imagination, even by religious standards.
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Originally Posted by swifbboy' timestamp='1305053208' post='20559845
you are seeming to forget that Jesus was God in the flesh. you are implying that they are separate. they are three parts and one in the same. God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Jesus did die for our sins. He conquered death and rose again. then he ascended to heaven to sit at the right hand of the Father until it is His time to return.
If "son" is Jesus, and Jesus is god in flesh, and god had yet to create flesh (no humanity), then how was god talking to son? That makes no sense. Unless he was talking to himself in the future? I for example see God counseling Archangel Metatron much more likely than him, counseling himself in the future, in a form that he hasn't even yet to design. The archangels have always been depicted as human-like; or perhaps put into the context of 1:26; humanity is angel-like?
I can't believe I'm having this discussion when I'm not even a Christian.
Can you tell I'm bored?
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I went to a Catholic university and thats what they always said in theology about the old testament. Don't take it all literally.
Why is this important? Is this for a paper or you just came across it and thought it was weird?
For my class on Islam, we were told the Quran was meant to all be taken literally. Why the difference I don't know, I did not pay close attention.
Why is this important? Is this for a paper or you just came across it and thought it was weird?
For my class on Islam, we were told the Quran was meant to all be taken literally. Why the difference I don't know, I did not pay close attention.
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I think the answer is pretty obvious. God has multiple personality disorder. After all, it only makes sense. In one moment, he's loving all of his children that he has created, in the next he's smiting them and sending down plagues and locusts. It's a one man display of the "Good God, Bad God" routine.
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Thanks everyone, I went ahead and visited my local best buy for the answer, they know everything for a fact. I believe I got the answer, through Genesis 11:7, Isaiah 6:8, Kings 22:19-23, Job 15:8, and Jeremiah 23:18, in which god speaks of his heavenly council, the angels, in multiple places. A foreshadowing of the trinity, while by a stretch of the imagination could apply, other scripture suggests the angels.
I'd like to thank everyone for keeping this thread clean, I'm actually shocked. I'll go ahead and lock this now. Thanks everyone for the input.
I'd like to thank everyone for keeping this thread clean, I'm actually shocked. I'll go ahead and lock this now. Thanks everyone for the input.
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