i have met true gentlemen, but they were gay

 

misskatiemo,

Are you saying you are cultured becuse you lived outside US? Can you clarify?

 

Living in Miami, I would say you dealing with a geographical issue.

 

You know where to find me when you need me.

Jack Nicholson mentioned in a Rolling Stone article last year about his character in "Something's Gotta Give." Basically, he, AND the character stick to that quote that ". . . years of feminism have come home to roost." I couldn't agree more.

Too many boys have been raised wrong. Single moms, or dad's that didn't have a clue (as was my case) or whatever. . . boys being shown that men are worthless and good-for-nothing, while at the same time being sold conflicting archetypes. . . "Be a man, but don't be the a-hole that I CHOSE to get pregnant with. . . "

. . . and then we all sit around wondering why men are such passive-aggressive

 

I'd rather be single than live my life like that, if a woman wants to be totally indepedent, then she can...just not in a relationship with me. There are plenty women (typically non-americanized) that understand the true relationship between a woman and a man. To some modern thinking women that might sound sexist, but I treat women with respect, I just don't think they should be running the show in a marriage/relationship.

 

1.) Unless your man wants something totally weird, you should be up for anything. Women that aren't willing to go the extra mile to satisfy their man get boring fast, no matter how good looking they are. I call it the Paris Hliton Syndrome, meaning men want to fuk her, but after the discover how bad of a lay she is the don't want her anymore (why do you think she has gone through so many men). If a woman isnt willing to go the extra mile to satisfy her man, she is a bad lay..plain and simple.

3.) Statistically career oriented women have a higher divorce rate, good luck.

4.) That response alone is a clear indication that you aren't necessarily cultured, cultured means lived (long period of time) or grew up in a foreign country.

6.) Good luck with that, I'm sure that 90% of those guys have tried to fuk you or have succeeded. Understand that guys do NOT like to have girls as friends unless they are gay. If you really get serious with a guy, he is not going to be cool with you hanging out with dudes all of the time.

 

Haha no, living outside the US for a year doesn't mean that I'm cultured, I'm well aware (and know many people that did this) that you can live outside your native country for a specific amount of time and still be an ignorant SOB.

I meant it in a paraphrased way, as two separate entities, not as an "if, then" type of statement

@gotrice02 - Over the past year I've suprised myself with how traditional I am. I could type out a whole post as to what makes me traditional, but in short, I'm non-traditional now to provide myself the luxury of being traditional when I have kids. Stay at home mom while they're young, cook and clean (do that already, my lovely boyfriend isn't skilled in the culinary arts unless it uses a microwave ) and in general, subscribe to a very traditional set of beliefs about male/female interaction as well as serious relationships. I just also have my desires and my hopes/dreams/wants, and am not afraid to go after them while I'm young and have the absolute freedom to do so. It's kind of a mix with me I guess. Though I do agree that as our society has changed both sexes have adapted. I def. still want the classic gentleman (and well, have him).

 

Everyone is different, you are a woman raised in the United States...meaning you were most likely raised to be overly independent, a inward thinker, and career oriented. Don't get me wrong, I love my country and my way of life, but finding a good woman in the U.S. is next to impossible. My wife moved here from Europe when she was 17 and she is 100% different then any woman I have met. Americanized women just are not interesting to me, the comment about the sexual things you WONT do is a prime example. So...why not, why wouldn't you do those things to satisfy your man? For the mostpart, foriegn women are raised to take care of their men, American women are not. Why should I bust my ass for a women who is not doing the same for me?

 

fair enough, I'm not saying I'm right or wrong, but I do understand your viewpoint and do see how different American culture is from many other cultures in the world. To each their own, all about finding what makes you happy - what works for some isn't for others

 

So, I completely disagree with you. . . not with how American women act, but rather, this notion about American women's "independence."

What I find with European women is the AWESOME notion of interdependence. They're not serving you because that's what's expected of them, but rather, because they know what they can only get out as much as they put into a relationship. They understand the onus is fully (and only) half on them, moreso than most American women. They have a better understanding of serving the relationship, whilst retaining their identity.

Most American women are on either (despicable) end of this. They have no balance or sense of interdependence. Either they are so completely dependent (usually co-dependent) on their men that they have no creativity or real personal identity, or are so domineering and/or passive-aggressive, that the man must eventually submit. Moreover, a lot of our culture these days lauds this. "What's mine is mine and what's his is mine."

Worst of all, there are (quite) a few American women who desperately want to to strike that balance of personal identity whilst being personally responsible for their end of a relationship. Unfortunately, our culture does not foster this, and that's everyone's fault.