was reading this @ rx7club.com and just found the FWD quote kinda funny. never thought if it in that light before[QUOTE]Originally posted by Li Hao Zhe:

 

 

Just a point to add ... There are good FF cars out there and I'm sure many of us can name a few off our hearts. Though they are definitely not high performance or considerable good sports cars compared to real FR, 4WD or MR classes in competition.

While Honda happens to be quite good at making FF cars, no joke on that ... It's documented. I strongly agree with what the guy posted on the RX-7 forum, it's one bad apple that turns all the good ones sore.

 

By the way, this past Sunday I was driving southbound on the Garden State Parkway toward Route 80 when a silver RX-7 ('95-'96 not sure) merged on to the Parkway from route 4. . .

He saw my S and started to accelerate, HARD. I left it in 6th gear, and mashed it. . . He was never able to close the gap between our cars. . . We were both doing 90-something. . .

After the toll plaza, he went toward 80 east, I went west. . . He revved hard and waved. . . I did the same. . .

Now, I'm a little curious which car (in stock form) is faster. . . A RX-7 (most recent iteration) or our S2K. . .

Any insights. . .

 

First, if it was a 3rd gen, it was a 93-95 and most likely not a 95 since there are so few of them. Second, from the mags, and from reading other posts, both cars stock should stay real tight. Problem is, if you see an RX-7 it's rare when they are stock. Gosh, I love that car.

ERIK

 

I very nearly bought a 3 year old RX7 about 3 years ago. I still think it's a fantastic looking car. I was put off in the end by everyone who knew anything about them talking about loads of unreliability problems. Does anyone have any insight into this?? I would it have thought it would murder an S2000 0-60 being capable of very low 5s in stock form??

 

I loved that version of the RX-7 as well. . . Reminded me of the Batmobile (in a good way). . . Actually, with the hardtop, our S2K's, remind of the RX-7 as well. . . Even though, our car doesn't remind me of the batmobile, go figure. . .

I think the car was stock, but I have know way of knowing for certain. . . Either way, his engine sounded great. . . Very much like ours. . .

 

I tested my 93 rx7 against my s2k when both were stock, and the rx7 was just slightly faster. It would just pull to where the s2k nose was even with the 7's door going from 50 - 90.

As far as drag racing goes, we didnt' test it (I seldom will drop my clutch), but the s2k better get a great launch, because the 7 is much easier to launch with 217 ft/lbs of torque

Erik's right, there were only 500 95's brought into the U.S.

The stock thing: yes, there are few stock 7's running around. The fact that a 7 owner can go to home depot, spend $7 on a needle valve and some copper piping, and raise his boost to 12lbs, giving him perhaps a 40hp jump means they're not stock for long

And as far as reliability, I'm tired of responding to this question. search street encouters for rx7 and rx-7, you'll find a bunch of posts...

 

Dunno which versions you guys are talking about, but I'll work from engine or chassis numbers I believe to have a clearer understanding for all.

Series 4 & 5 : FC Rx-7, our cars are definitely faster stock vs stock ... Though mentioned. You definitely will not find more than 10% currently in the world that are standard completely.

Series 6 & 7 : FD Rx-7, sorry but our cars no longer belong in the same class as them. They have progressed to Class A type vehicle in Japan while we are at Class B. So you know, we can't possibly beat a different class otherwise we would have been classed the same as well.

Overall generally, Rotaries are somewhat like our VTECs. They are pretty dead or should I say lack of low-end torque untill the turbines are ready for action. Same theory with VTEC but performance wise ... It's close on the scale but not good enough, the NSX will be a close match stock vs stock with the series 7 Rx-7s.

 

We were talking about series 6 FD's. Series 7 never came to the U.S.

We also were just talking about acceleration of a stock FD vs. Stock S2000. They're pretty close. If you're talking about the whole package, on a track, you're right, the FD has more of an advantage. In the U.S., you can see this by the fact that the S2000 is an "A Stock" car, while the FD RX-7 is in "Superstock". I know this is going to be unpopular with the S2000 owners, because they rightly pride themselves on the handling of the s2000 (which is great). But look at the racing section of this board, there are several posts where the S2000 autocross guys are trying to keep the S2000 from going into Superstock, because they don't want to have to compete with the FD RX-7 specifically...