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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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im considering buying a Samsung HLR6167W 61" HDTV.

specs are...
61" Diagonal Screen Size

DLP (Digital Light Processing) With Cinema Smooth 720p Light Engine
16:9 (Widescreen) Aspect Ratio
Texas Instruments Single-Panel Digital Micro-Mirror Device (DMD) Design
Cinema Smooth Film-Mode 3:2 Pull Down (Powered By Genesis)
DCR (Digital Cable Ready) With CableCARD
HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) Input
Component Video Inputs (2) Accepting 480i/480p/720p/1080i Signals
1280 x 720p Pixel Native Resolution
Built-In Analog/Digital (NTSC/ATSC) 181-Channel Tuner
Latest Generation DNIe (Digital Natural Image engine) Video Enhancer
1280 x 720p Digital Format Converter For All Inputs
PC Input, 3 S-Video/3 Composite Video Inputs (1 Side, 2 Rear, For Each)
Crystal-Clear Picture With No Possibility Of Convergence Errors
No Screen Aging Or Burn-In Effects For Worry-Free Enjoyment
30-Watt Stereo Audio System With SRS TruSurround XT
2000:1 Contrast Ratio
Lamp Life: About 5000 Hours
3D Y/C Digital Comb Filter
2-Tuner Picture-In-Picture (PIP) With Side-By-Side Split Screen
3 Preset Picture Modes (Standard, Cinema, Dynamic)
5 Preset Audio Modes (Sports, Movies, Music, Speech, and Custom)
Picture Format Size Adjustment
Samsung's Proprietary Anynet Network Control Solution
Universal Remote Control, Previous Channel Function, Discrete IR Codes
Quiet Operation (48dB)
Trilingual On-Screen Displays (English, Spanish and French)
V-Chip Parental Control
Analog L/R Inputs (1 Side, 4 Rear), Output (1 Rear)
RF Inputs (2 Rear), Output (1 Rear)
Size: 56.9" W x 40.7" H x 16.7" D

is this a good TV? any other Tvs out there which are smiliar in size and price which are better? i am planning on buying one on ebay for about $2400 dollars then roughly 300 ontop of that to ship. thanks for the help guys
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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I was considering buying a similar Samsung DLP TV but decided against it after reading some of the negatives such as video/audio sync lagging issues, rainbow effects and people getting migraines.

I ended getting a rear projection LCD from SONY and I LOVE IT!
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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I've had a 50" DLP for over two years now, and I love it.

For up-to-date reviews of this model, go to www.avsforum.com

Some people see rainbows all the time. The only time I see them is when the room is dark (no background light at all) and I quickly move my eyes away from the screen. So basically, it's not an issue.
People say you should take a black & white movie DVD to the store and watch it for a while, as apparently B&W is more susceptible to the rainbow effect.

Audio sync is a very rare problem. I've noticed it on a few DVDs, but over two years' viewing, I can't say it was a big deal.

Basically, I love the set. I haven't kept up with developments lately, but check around - there are LCoS sets out there now too (Toshiba? LG?), and they're very good.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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Also consider taking a look at this: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/pr...sp?model=62hm84

I've taken a look at tv in person and picture is just awesome when viewing in HD or dvds.
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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thanks guys. any other comments? or suggestions for similar tvs
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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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I have the Samsung 42" DLP, and it is awesome. No problems at all with it.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 04:16 AM
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Not a big fan of the Sammies, if DLP is your bag go with the Tosh or Hitachi. Sony LCD is nice.

After seeing the D-Ila JVC though, I have to say that is the best. It is an LCOS tv, someone else mentioned here. REally nice.

If you don't need the small form factor though, you can't go wrong with an CRT RPTV. Still the best pic by far.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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CRTs are good, but to get the best out of them, you really need a GOOD calibration. And you have to be careful about burn-in from games, channel bugs, etc. Things like the ticker tape on CNN can be a problem.

I'd also agree with taking a look at the JVC LCoS (Liquid Crystal on Silicone) tv. When I bought the Samsung, the Toshiba LCoS was getting rave reviews, but they were having terrible problems producing it. Only a few screens out of every hundred would work on the factory floor, so the cost was rediculous. If JVC have it working, it's definitely worth a look.

My only problem with LCD TVs (like Sony's), is the stuck pixel problem. If you have less than 5 stuck pixels, they don't want to hear it. But if you have four stuck pixels, and they are all nice bright primary colors, it's a pain in the ass.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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I realize this may piss some people off because they will think I am crapping on their purchase decision but with these large TV's you get what you pay for. Much of that is picture quality, but what you do not see is whatever the initial picture quality at purchase, how long will that hold up?

Samsung, sharp, panasonic, etc do not have pictures that hold up over time, in my opinion. They tend to degrade faster. It has been my limited experience that Pioneer, Mitsubishi, and to some extent Sony, have had picture quality hold up with heavy use for ten years or more on large screens. DLP is a new technology so YRMV on this new set, but my policy with a big ticket purchase is too pay the extra up front for high end brands and you usually do not regret it.

I do not own any pioneer sets but my friend has about an 8 yr old Elite 50 +inch tv that still looks amazing. I have about 5 years on a 55 inch Mitsu HD with HEAVY use and I notice no drop in picture quality. I just got an LG 42 inch plasma that has a nice picture (about a $3800 tv) that was a freebie with my new house, but I have not had it long enough to see how it will hold up. Don't know anything about LG quality.

I know poeple with large sets from Toshiba, Panasonic Sharp and Samsung have color fade and ghost issues on newer sets. If you buy this stuff frequently and will just use it until the next technology comes out, it might be the right set. But if this is a lot of cash and you want high quality for a long time, I would look at a Mitsu product to compare. Their bigscreens are rock solid.

Good luck with your purchase.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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The manufacturers are aiming to have 3D TV within 10 years, so I think any TV purchase these days should be viewed as a short-term thing, like a PC. At the rate things are going, anything on the market today should be the equivalent of an 8-track by 2015.
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