This thread is a good read. I'll never say I hate cops again, but I will say i've encountered many asshole cops. But I can just as easily say i've encountered many asshole salesmen, students, teachers, and strangers. The problem is that cops have power over an individual's freedom, and when you encounter a sub-par person in uniform it definitely sticks in your mind much more than any other. Cops can't be all smiles all the time, they have to be hard people that are intimidating but also proper. They need to maintain order, and in today's society you can't do that by being nice and saying what you want to hear. That's bullsh!t. If I were a cop and I had to approach somebody, it wouldn't be in a nice manner. I'd act like a hard human being that has little tolerance for shady behavior becuse thats the way it has to be. So it's a fine line between being a hard human being on the job and acting like a potential "dickhead." It's a touchy subject obviously, but like i said .... i dislike certain people that I encounter, but I do not dislike cops as a whole. I usually do get that internal change in feeling when I see a cop, but that doesn't make me say inside "damn I hate cops"....more like "sh!t I hope he didn't see me speeding"

 

bobatimez, I also support you.

I am also a bit upset by what this thread has turned into. To those to which it applies: Spirited on-subject dicussion is wonderful and welcome, personal attacks aren't.

 

does that means cops should pull all DODGE VIPERS over with them big ass tires ?

 

That would be a good idea as they are all driven by drug dealers anyway aren't they

 

Hey, not fair! I prefer to call them "pharmaceuticals".

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by xviper
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Hey, not fair!

 

I thought it was all the ferrari drivers?!?!?!

ohhh wait, that's all the chop shop "stock brokers" (Boiler Room Movie)

 

Hey. thats pharmaceutical distribution engineer to you. and hey, everyone needs a job right?

 

Well, after digesting some more of this thread, I've noticed a steady up swing in the "fear factor". Most of what's been commented on is the emotion of fear. Why fear something that doesn't exsist. To say specifically, what are you truely afraid of? As a physcology student you should be able to analyze this situation or your own emotions. Fear is a self-generated emotion. It primarily stems from something out of your control, understanding and the unknown. Nothing is unknown here, except what your next action will be to the situation concerning your license plate. Your fear extends to your inability to cope with the situation. You would like to leave the car as is and not put the plate on. But your in personal conflict to do the right thing so you don't get another ticket and possibly loose your license.

Your comming here is an attempt to justify and gain emotional support to leave things as they are and take your chances. Well, just remember this, your the one that has to answer for the concequences no one else. The final outcome will rest solely on your head. No matter how much verbal support and feel good words you generate it doesn't change the outcome. You have gotten several citations for not running a plate and if you chance it again, it will only result in you receiving another citiation. Look, obviously these citations haven't made a big enough impresson on you to this point. It's only made you angry. In making you angry it has generated a general hatred for all cops. Under the guise of trying to further your justification, you picked out a cop that you saw as not to busy and able to talk. His response was not of your liking so this further concreted your belief and anger. So what's the basis of your feeling, well lets see, maybe you see others doing the same thing and they haven't gotten a ticket. So you ask yourself, WHY ME. The internal answer comes back, the cops are just singling me out and impunning my right of self-expression. Oh well, your the one with the tickets and everything has a start somewhere. Do you honestly think that the cops would continue to write you citations, if you complied?! Man, you have to be truthful with yourself here, and quit making the cops your scapegoat.

If you keep breaking the law your going to continue to be pointed at as a violator. Don't really think you want that. I think instead of trying to justify your current actions you need to comply. Either way, you will comply and this will be a dead issue or you won't and the court will take away your license, and it will be a dead issue. I believe you would like to continue driving, in-fact it may be paramount to your employment status. A little proverb comes to mind and this is, "When your walking on eggs, don't hop!" I can see your anxiety and fear with the situation due to the number of citations for the same offense, but your the only one in control of this. I can see you looking for a buffer to seperate you from the action, but you are only creating a false balance for yourself. You made your bed and now your going to have to sleep in it. If it takes compliance then just comply. Drop the false pride and the stubborness. Take responsibility for your mistakes, and quit trying to blame others. This is the bottomline of the whole dicussion.

I know, sometimes reality can be a pain in the arse. Life isn't measured by our mistakes, just how we overcome them. But you have to first admit to yourself that a mistake was made and you made it. That's the only way you'll overcome it. Yes, it a tough situation and I can sympathsis with you. Change hurts sometimes in the beginning. You do yourself a grave injustice and make it tougher by continuing to lie to yourself. This is very obvious in everything you have said. Please, for your own sake give it up and do what's right! Don't forget also, you started the thread and asked for the opinions so it's important for you to learn from it also.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year of understanding and growth.

Jeff

 

Interesting post JRM!!

I wanted to say something about the front license plate law with regard to complying vs leaving it off.

I feel that the front-license-plate thing is a total bullshit law, which is why I don't mind breaking it, and why I personally have a very hard time "complying". It's one of those things where you don't think clearly out of fighting for the principle of the whole thing. The principle being that we all wish that those little laws were banished in exchange for more prudent and applicable laws that would benefit us all. Those of us who feel this way do not put on a front license plate, I assume under the hopes that mass-defiance of this bullshit law will somehow eventuall prove some kind of point to law enforcement/legislators. Our point being to say to those in charge: "do something more useful with your time". We probably all ought to go file complaints, write letters to senators, etc.... but the problem there is that THAT is also kind of a bullshit process which I understand takes forever, with very little hope of any kind of resolution because frankly, we all live in a society where it's hard to take the time off from our busy fast-paced lives to deal with that. Even if I go file complaints & write letters, I'm very discouraged because I don't believe that enough people will do something about it even if they care.

I wonder, is there ever a section on voting ballots where we can simply WRITE IN things that we want addressed, rather than having to get them officially recognized as Measure X, etc?