Taste and Tolerance
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First off, I realize that this thread mostly belongs on, and will get shifted to OT. But "Car Talk" is where the traffic is on this site....
I grew up in the 60's and there were greasers-those who worked on their cars (hiked rear-ends, headers, holey 4 barrel carbs etc). Then there were the Freaks or Hippies. To put it mildly, the Greasers didn't tolerate the Freaks, their existence was offense to them, so they did what they could to intimidate...Maybe some Freaks did work on their VW vans (other than painting flowers and peace signs) in the way of needed life-sustaining repairs, but that was about it. I regret that I never learned how to do my own work on a car, falling into the latter group autoshop was not a class where I would have been welcome or tolerated....
Fast forward to current times...we have those who mod and those who don't. Luckily we also have a place like this where we can air our views without it breaking out in a fist fight or a stabbing.
Mods are nothing new, hot rodding has been around since who knows when. Some of these rods have been fetching some good $$$ at respected auctions ala Barrett-Jackson, generally their pedigree is a key factor. No one should argue that the car or platform upon which that 'rod' was based is generally beyond being a factor in its value. It exists as nothing more than a 'canvas' for which the rodder (modder) based his creation. Additionally, that platform, had it been left untouched, (stock) would appeal to a broader audience and would command a much higher price. A point that bieg made in his contoversial post- seeing a stock classic car, free from hiked up rears or added side pipes, gets a different reaction than a visually modified one. But chances are the rod was loved and maybe the pure stock car was driven by that mythical little old lady who only drove it to church on Sundays. (ain't no stooks being driven by her today).
I has a used '71 GTO, it was no beauty, I was the third owner and a friend performed his magic on the 400 cubic inches under her hood. I loved that car, her rumble was a sound that I long to hear, and whenever I see a 'goat' on the road I'll roll down my window just to catch a moment of that signature exhaust note. From that car forward, I was hooked. I still don't do my own work, I do wish that I could learn how to (other than swapping out the ecu in my A4) but I love cars.
From the car mags, this site and my test drive I have fallen head over heels for the S2K. 9hey, aren't heads normally over heels?) This car has touched something special in me and I can't make the calendar go fast enough as I await September delivery. I see from this forum, and the heated debates over some recent posts, that she touches the emotions in each of us. That's great. But the heat gets out of hand and I'm reminded of the greasers lack of tolerance for others. Bieg speaks eloquently and needs no help from me or others, but don't beat him up for his thoughts, he loves his car his way while others express their love with blowers and spoilers. Some like their women with make-up while others don't, beauty and love are everyones' personal thing and what stirs each of us isn't right or wrong- it just is.
I don't know for sure which camp I'll fall into once I get to live with my 'stook', hell for now I still agonize over 'new' silver or suzuka blue. But, I do know that I'll have a car that will be one of the special 'things' in my life. I'd hate to think that others will judge me as 'this or that'for my choice in transportatiion and recreation. My drives are something special that I give myself, not a means of showing the neighbors who I am.
Let's attempt a cease-fire on the personal attacks. I hate the sh*t kicking memories of the greasers just as I hate the guy who tries to run me off the road if I pass him or express myself with my horn (horns are standard equipment on all cars and I believe are there to be used to communicate, but ill save that for another post)...It's great to have this site and without a healthy diffence of opinions it wouldn't be what it is.
I grew up in the 60's and there were greasers-those who worked on their cars (hiked rear-ends, headers, holey 4 barrel carbs etc). Then there were the Freaks or Hippies. To put it mildly, the Greasers didn't tolerate the Freaks, their existence was offense to them, so they did what they could to intimidate...Maybe some Freaks did work on their VW vans (other than painting flowers and peace signs) in the way of needed life-sustaining repairs, but that was about it. I regret that I never learned how to do my own work on a car, falling into the latter group autoshop was not a class where I would have been welcome or tolerated....
Fast forward to current times...we have those who mod and those who don't. Luckily we also have a place like this where we can air our views without it breaking out in a fist fight or a stabbing.
Mods are nothing new, hot rodding has been around since who knows when. Some of these rods have been fetching some good $$$ at respected auctions ala Barrett-Jackson, generally their pedigree is a key factor. No one should argue that the car or platform upon which that 'rod' was based is generally beyond being a factor in its value. It exists as nothing more than a 'canvas' for which the rodder (modder) based his creation. Additionally, that platform, had it been left untouched, (stock) would appeal to a broader audience and would command a much higher price. A point that bieg made in his contoversial post- seeing a stock classic car, free from hiked up rears or added side pipes, gets a different reaction than a visually modified one. But chances are the rod was loved and maybe the pure stock car was driven by that mythical little old lady who only drove it to church on Sundays. (ain't no stooks being driven by her today).
I has a used '71 GTO, it was no beauty, I was the third owner and a friend performed his magic on the 400 cubic inches under her hood. I loved that car, her rumble was a sound that I long to hear, and whenever I see a 'goat' on the road I'll roll down my window just to catch a moment of that signature exhaust note. From that car forward, I was hooked. I still don't do my own work, I do wish that I could learn how to (other than swapping out the ecu in my A4) but I love cars.
From the car mags, this site and my test drive I have fallen head over heels for the S2K. 9hey, aren't heads normally over heels?) This car has touched something special in me and I can't make the calendar go fast enough as I await September delivery. I see from this forum, and the heated debates over some recent posts, that she touches the emotions in each of us. That's great. But the heat gets out of hand and I'm reminded of the greasers lack of tolerance for others. Bieg speaks eloquently and needs no help from me or others, but don't beat him up for his thoughts, he loves his car his way while others express their love with blowers and spoilers. Some like their women with make-up while others don't, beauty and love are everyones' personal thing and what stirs each of us isn't right or wrong- it just is.
I don't know for sure which camp I'll fall into once I get to live with my 'stook', hell for now I still agonize over 'new' silver or suzuka blue. But, I do know that I'll have a car that will be one of the special 'things' in my life. I'd hate to think that others will judge me as 'this or that'for my choice in transportatiion and recreation. My drives are something special that I give myself, not a means of showing the neighbors who I am.
Let's attempt a cease-fire on the personal attacks. I hate the sh*t kicking memories of the greasers just as I hate the guy who tries to run me off the road if I pass him or express myself with my horn (horns are standard equipment on all cars and I believe are there to be used to communicate, but ill save that for another post)...It's great to have this site and without a healthy diffence of opinions it wouldn't be what it is.
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From: Sheridan
Maybe "off topic" but right on the mark!
I'd be adventuresome and take "Suzuka Blue." Or would I? I mean "Silver/Black" has to be the most conservative S2K color scheme.
Congratulations.
Barry
I'd be adventuresome and take "Suzuka Blue." Or would I? I mean "Silver/Black" has to be the most conservative S2K color scheme.
Congratulations.
Barry
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From: Mountain View
good thoughts vaper! i'm a freaky hippie, and i do all my own work on this car 
just pick up the helm manual ($60), a torque wrench and a socket set and you're all set - it's easier than it looks!
just pick up the helm manual ($60), a torque wrench and a socket set and you're all set - it's easier than it looks!
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