are you supposed to tip the front desk/concierge, person who takes u to your room, cleaning people, who else? and how much?

 

Depends on the hotel and what they do for you, otherwise, just the cleaning person and the bellboy.

 

i work bell at a casino in reno,... the rules around here are , the front desk managers cant accept tips, so if they upgrade you to a better room and you wanna tip them, make sure it doesnt say "manager" or "supervisor" on the name tag. any regular person can though. , they are not working for tips so its not expected,
tip the room service if you use them,...i.e. order food to the room.
tip the maids if they bring something to you while you are in the room, they are use to cleaning the rooms with nobody there, but if u need extra pillows, towels, etc and call them and they bring them give them a couple bucks to be nice but they dont expect it.
valet,....90 percent of people do not tip coming into the casino, they tip when they leave. 5 bucks is a nice tip for the car when returned. we get people in rovers and the high end cars who give a buck or two leaving,.....thats not nice, but some people say that is how rich people stay rich. if you are goin to vegas, it could take a long time to get your car back when u need it due to the volume of people down there,.....you could give a twenty coming in to be rememered and they might mark it on your ticket to give you exceptional service when you wanna leave in hopes of another big tip,...but it all depends on who is working and how they are. if its busy and the valet is "closed" a twenty usually will get u in and they will "find a spot" for u.
For bell service,..tip whoever unloads the car. and whoever takes it up to you. taking it up is obviously more work than just taking it out of your trunk, a cart of bags is heavy and we have to push them a long ways.....a 5 is nice, but you cant go wrong with a 10.
hope this helps,

 

i can appreciate that people want to make money, but all these rules sound ridiculous. a business should pay its workers. feels like you have to pay and then pay again and again.

in any case, please keep listing the rules. are you saying that giving a buck or two is bad/insulting? do you tip the guy who shows u to your room, but doesn't take bags?

 

well you gotta think,.....we are only paid min. wage. thats what our paycheck is. 80hrs of 6.15 per hr. so hopefully most people we deal with realize this,...then on top of it.....depending on where, the tips are split.....so its not like you are giving the person helping u 5 bucks,..u are giving 5 guys, 1 buck.

these are not "rules" its just etiquette, like taking your hat off in church or at the table. here is a link you might find helpful
http://www.findalink.net/tippingetiquette.php

a single dollar is not insulting to me, but at least where i am,...they are here wasting money gambling,...they came prepared to lose money. so pay for the service you get at the least. if you tip the cocktail waitress a dollar a drink....thats is normal cuz the drinks are free if u are playing,...but you def dont wanna tip your server a dollar.

and i was confused about your question about the guy who shows up at the room but doesnt take the bags....not sure who you mean here.

 

[QUOTE=dyhppy,Sep 5 2007, 01:04 AM] i can appreciate that people want to make money, but all these rules sound ridiculous.

 

Most people dont know the history of tips. I have worked in the hospitality industry for over a decade. Heck most people don't know what T.I.P.S stands for. Tips stands for TO INSURE PROMPT SERVICE.

Now, many threads ago, we had a discussion on the custom of tipping. Many, like yourself, argue that the employer should pay the wage, and not the customer. A very valid argument, and is customary in Europe. Anyone who EVER worked in a service industry of any kind will tell you their disdain of Europeans for this exact reason. In Europe, tipping is included in the price of everything, sometimes called "the tablecloth fee."

Now, many moons ago, the employer DID pay the wage, and tipping was non-existent.

However, like you stated in your post, when you throw someone a $20, you get a little extra service right? How carefully would you take luggage out, wheel it, unload it, if you KNEW that no matter how much ass you kiss or kick, you aren't getting an extra dime...so, your "service" is mediocre at best. People began to "slip" workers money for that little extra....thus..tipping was born.

Now, over time, employers caught on to the fact, and noticed that their employees were making waaay too much money for what they are doing (I earned $1000 cash PER DAY when I bar tended...I know lawyers that don't make that much.) As a result of this, the employers cut wages to bring the earnings of the employees down to a "normal" level.

Over time, tipping because customary, and today, argue until you are blue in the face, it is a societal standard. I have proven time and time again to people who say tipping is optional, that it really isn't. BAD service deserves no tip. Good service deserves good tip, and so on. Unfortunately, the service industry slashed today's wages so much that the employees rely SOLELY on tips to survive, as their paychecks are 0. As a result, when you stiff someone, you are almost robbing them, as they can't pay rent and can't buy food because of you. I know, sad, wrong, but reality.

However, to get a little bit on your side, most of these new young thundercats who are joining the service industry often forget that it's the SERVICE industry, and NOT a TIP industry. These little punks expect 20% for taking your order, and slamming the check down when you ask for it. Most places don't even train their employees. I have my own consulting company for restaurants and bars, and part of my job is to properly train all workers, from dishwasher to manager. I have places in NYC that know me because I eat there all the time, and everytime a waiter/ess I like does something wrong, Ill educate them a bit, and the next time I come in, they thank me, as their tips improved and their checks grew. Tips have to be EARNED. Their job is to SERVE you. They are not your personal slaves, but they must fulfill their assigned duties to the best of their ability and up to the standards of the establishments. The percentage of service industry employees that are TRULY good at what they do is about 5%.

Hope this put a little insight on the issue for you, and remember, people always remember good tippers, but they remember bad tippers even more. For a little more, you sometimes, can get A LOT.

 

/thread lol

 

Agreed.

 

I used to hate the tip when I didn't have money because it was enough for me to pay the tab. Even with a history of being a bellman in the past. When I was a bellman I appreciated tips no matter what they were, but if I didn't get a tip that was fine. I did go out of my way for big tippers. It's just natural. YOu get what you pay for. The cheapest tippers overall were the celebrities. I remember I moved so much stuff for MCHammer and got squat. I now try to tip average to above average for extra effort. I figure it's my little way of sharing the wealth.