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UFC - is it going TOO "Mainstream"

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ENTHRALLED,Jan 30 2007, 10:59 AM
^^Randy's over the hill...he need to stay home and watch it on TV.
Or watch it 2 feet from the ring with rogan like ususal?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by spapdx,Jan 30 2007, 10:49 AM
Isn't rampage fighting this Saturday?? I watched his first fright vs Liddell (Pride), and Liddell got dominated. That would be fun to see in the ufc


I really want to see Bisping in a fight that challenges him. He has blown through everyone he has fought...



Still dont know what to think about Randy coming back... He has always been my boy (his gym (team quest) is about 2 minutes from my house). I hope he still has it in him and doesn't ruin his career....
Liddell gassed out for that fight, he did not get dominated really. He didnt even lose conventionally, he threw in the towel. I think it would be a whole different story now 5 years later, in the UFC octagon and not Pride ring, and after he hasn't lost in years. I think Chuck would win right now, and that is why Rampage has said publicly he doesn't want a title fight for at least a year.

Bisping is good, but he did not blow through that last fight. He gassed out bad. He would get crushed by Chuck if he came into a title fight as he did that last one. But in prime condition, he is a top 5 light heavyweight right now...

Randy has a good opportunity for his first fight with overachiever Tim Sylvia. I think he has a chance to beat Tim. After that, I think he is in trouble. Mirko would cream Randy, so would Brandon Vera most likely. Randy is too old and slow for a lot of the faster more talented heavyweights. I dont even think he could beat Arlovski.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SD_S2K,Jan 30 2007, 02:30 PM
Liddell gassed out for that fight, he did not get dominated really. He didnt even lose conventionally, he threw in the towel. I think it would be a whole different story now 5 years later, in the UFC octagon and not Pride ring, and after he hasn't lost in years. I think Chuck would win right now, and that is why Rampage has said publicly he doesn't want a title fight for at least a year.

Bisping is good, but he did not blow through that last fight. He gassed out bad. He would get crushed by Chuck if he came into a title fight as he did that last one. But in prime condition, he is a top 5 light heavyweight right now...

Randy has a good opportunity for his first fight with overachiever Tim Sylvia. I think he has a chance to beat Tim. After that, I think he is in trouble. Mirko would cream Randy, so would Brandon Vera most likely. Randy is too old and slow for a lot of the faster more talented heavyweights. I dont even think he could beat Arlovski.
Yeah I agree that Chuck didn't look very good in that fight. He almost looked scared, or out of his element. He was much younger also. But he did get thrown around like doll in the second round.


Yeah I am with you. I feel pretty good about randy's first fight with sylvia, but I am scared for him with what he will be up against next....
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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I prefer the ring to the cage and Pride > UFC. If you haven't followed much of Pride, I would suggest looking into it if you're into MMA. Pride has the better fighters. Who's gonna beat Fedor? UFC doesn't really have strong Heavyweights and the best of Pride tried and failed.

UFC is based in the U.S. and Pride is based out of Japan with hardly any American fighters. So naturally the marketing will hit the US hard. Another example is looking at Nascar and F1. F1 Rules but Nascar gets all the exposure.

Couture= passed his prime
Ortiz= one the most overrated fighters
Liddell= still not to be underestimated
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Spanky,Jan 30 2007, 07:59 PM
I prefer the ring to the cage and Pride > UFC. If you haven't followed much of Pride, I would suggest looking into it if you're into MMA. Pride has the better fighters. Who's gonna beat Fedor? UFC doesn't really have strong Heavyweights and the best of Pride tried and failed.

UFC is based in the U.S. and Pride is based out of Japan with hardly any American fighters. So naturally the marketing will hit the US hard. Another example is looking at Nascar and F1. F1 Rules but Nascar gets all the exposure.

Couture= passed his prime
Ortiz= one the most overrated fighters
Liddell= still not to be underestimated
I definitely agree with you on the big 3, the props to MMA going more mainstream is good news for those of us who have been here from the beginning. I have long wanted some of Prides top boys to clash with soem of the big dawgs of UFC. Like Liddel and Miyazaki, that would be a wild fight. I think the mainstream has made it alittle softer today then when the days of Shamrock and Gracie were in their prime. I think its a good sport for people that have had good training in the amatuer leagues as well, just the hard part is getting the amateur fights sanctioned. Nebraska, Indiana, Nevada, and Florida are the only states im aware of atm you can fight in amateur level. But back to the proz, wow cant wait for Crocop and Rampage to arrive!
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Oh ya, and Pride has some wickedly good fighters, I would like to see a fusion more hardcore like oldschool UFC, that the best from UFC, Pride and K1 show up for a world title.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by spapdx,Jan 29 2007, 03:37 PM
BTW: Will someone please beat Liddell?????
Nope Liddel > everyone lol

and I got tix to UFC 67 lol woot!
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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I hope they are good seats.

I ALMOST bought 2 for the 68 in OH but I can't justify spending 1000s of dollars for a few hours, when I can have a better view, instant replay, and less expensive beer at home.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by blacks2k,Jan 30 2007, 03:22 AM
hey nvmy4n, when was it not allowed in the usa??

maybe u guys need to post on the mma.tv forums, they have more knowledgeable fans than fightsport or sherdog
Sorry not U.S. just some states.

There is also another time considered the "Dark Ages" where is was very small d/t political objection.
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