I am not a paranoid person by nature. If someone would have told me terrorist were gonna hijack planes an crash them into building in NY and DC..I would have said they were paranoid and crazy. Just because someone thinks someone is out to get them doesn't mean they are wrong!! If you don't think a couple more attacks like 9/11 couldn't result in id chips being mandatory...you are the one living in the fantasy world. People have branded people with all kinds of things in the past in order to control them.....people haven't changed. People are still the same people who murdered jews, enslaved nations, massacred cambodians, etc etc.

 

I still think that the point here that nobody has answered is "what is SO wrong with them?".

Let's assume to start that the chips are not ones that are capable of sending out signals or communicating with GPS satellites, so they are not going to let BIG BROTHER know where you are all the time.

They could store personal information about you which could be accessed when you are entering somewhere, say a government building, or an aircraft. This would allow POSITIVE identification of people in circumstances where they are supposed to provide identification anyway. (i.e. this offers little or no additional methods of tracking people if that is what you are worried about).

Let us assume that police stations (rather than each officer) are equipped with readers. This would allow POSITIVE identification of people brought into the police station, avoiding the possibility of people using false ID

 

Haha, fear, it's a bitch...

 

Well, I don't think mandatory ID chips would be legal, for one. Couldn't we use the pro-choice (abortion) argument against the ID chips? If a woman has a right to choose what happens to her body, don't I have the right to choose what shouldn't happen to my body??? If that logic holds, then implanting ID chips can never be mandatory.

I suppose you could make the ID chips voluntary. But how can any good come from the system then? I don't think the lowlifes and career criminals some are hoping to catch would voluntarily have ID chips embedded under their skin. Granted, there might still be some takers on the chips for medical reasons: list your blood type, any conditions and allergies you have, etc. But don't they already make dog tag like things that you can wear around your kneck or as a bracelet for those purposes, though?

 

Unless you change the law! This is always a possibility and shouldn't be overlooked. If the government get enough backing behind their "War on Terror" they may be able to push through changes to the law that would allow this. Making the carrying of ID cards would require a change in the law, so this in not something that is impossible.

This is not really my question though. My question is what, specifically, are people afraid of?




I agree that if it is a voluntary thing then it would serve no purpose. It would have to be mandatory for everyone for it to be of any use .....

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tokyo_james
[B]I still think that the point here that nobody has answered is "what is SO wrong with them?".

 

Do you REALLY think that a chip would be used to store your phone number and e-mail address?

It would need re-programming every time you moved or changed e-mail provider! I really don't see that as an issue!



to do this, there would have to be probably the biggest database ever devised installed so that each company boss could check on the location of his employees at any time...... I think not!

So if you call in sick and then go to the driving range, do you take your mobile phone with you? If so your boss could prove where you were anyway!

Is your car fitted with a tracking device to prevent theft? If you drove to the driving range, your boss would be able to prove where you were anyway!

Do you pay at the driving range with a credit card? Your boss would be able to prove where you were anyway!



But WHAT are they going to be able to prove? That this person or that person were in a certain building? That Mr A flew from Chicago to Dallas on a certain day? That Mr B has type A+ blood?

Most of this information is available to them anyway if they want to search for it.


I really think that these are non-issues. Just IMHO obviously

 

How can you say these are non-issues. All through history a few people in power have tried to find ways to control the population they are ruling. It was done in the middle ages by not letting people read and horrible tortures to try to keep them in line. It was done during WW2 by putting a star of david on the "evil" people so they could be easily recognized. Of course there will be good things on the chip. People wouldn't volunteer for them if someone said..we are going to track you with this thing and if you do anything we don't like we can find you.

Fear is a great motivator. Before 9/11 people would have said these ideas are crazy, but after 9/11 people were talking about giving up all kinds of freedoms for so-called protection. Again, if it is voluntary that is someone's choice. If/When it becomes mandatory watch what happens to people who refuse. there is no way it will ever become mandatory unless something else horrible happens on US soil. It may take a couple of horrible things. But, fear will motivate people to give up freedoms for what they think is safety. The gov. will say that they can monitor all citizens and possible terrorists and keep you safe. If you want to trust the gov. with you life good for you. I would rather not.

THE gov., some stupid chip, medicines that help you live forever ...all this crap is a symptom of the same thing. People are afraid of death, dying, and things they can't control. And in the end many will give up their freedoms for empty promises from our leaders. It has happend all through human history and it will happen again.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by s2kpdx01
[B]How can you say these are non-issues.

 

I agree!! I could always turn my chip spam filter on!!