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Old Oct 4, 2014 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by drewc
I am a 14T patriot missile operator/maintainer. Have actually tried reclassing 3 times and every time it something ended up happening where I couldn't reclass. Because my MOS is short on people so we are ( Locked in as they call it). I do not enjoy the job lots of politics and stuff associated with it. I was thinking of going reserves and doing something on the civilian side. From what I am hearing being a helicopter pilot might be a better option. I have looked into schools for both career fields but wanted to hear from people who have experienced this type of work before I jumped into it.
I was naval qualified diver first class and saturation. Got out went reserves and dove on the rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Saturation diving used to pay a lot. 100 and hour plus a dollar a foot per hour and you are down for about 2 to 3 weeks at a crack being paid that 24/7. But I don't think anyone is working at 700 feet anymore. Its all robotics and RUWS. When you are being paid at that rate; your employers don't care if you live or died. They suffered a 3% casualty rate per year with most of them being fatal from either hypoxia or hypothermia (running a 3/97 02/He mix, you lose your body heat about 20 times faster than normal and need to be running a hot water suit, lose your hot water and you have 5 minutes to make it back to the bell..) I had friends who became millionaires diving the north sea in the 70's and 80's but like I said its not done anymore. I have had the bends 3 times, carbon monoxide poisoning twice, ruptured eardrums 5 times and blew my sinuses 3 times.

Civilian Deep Sea diving isn't all that great. You go to the school, graduate. Jobs are hard to come if you don't know anyone. Once you get one, you have to tend for a minimum of a year at minumum wage before you get wet. Last time I talked to a commercial diver was in 98. These kids were working at 80 to 100 doing dam inspections and were only getting 27.50 an hour and had about 5 years experience apiece.

Had a friend that went Army reserves and got chopper school and then went back on active duty. Army were begging for them 30 years ago. I don't know how it is now.
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by XxMerlinxX
I'm a certified diver with a little bit of knowledge on underwater welding, as I've looked into going that route myself. There are a lot of risks and dangers associated with the job and really only one upside, which is the pay. You can be an air range diver, where you're only breathing air, but they don't make as much as the saturation divers. Saturation divers go deeper than most and there are some inherent dangers of diving so deep, so you'll be spending a lot of your off time in a baro chamber in between shifts.

It's also a pretty hard field to break into. Once out of school, it may take you a while to find anyone who's actually hiring. Once you do get hired, you likely won't touch the water for the next year or two, instead they'll use you as a tender on the topside.

What's your MOS? Any interest in getting reclassed into something you could use on the outside?

Outside the Navy, there is only one U.S. company doing saturation work. Duke Univ. probably still does some research. Worldwide there are probably less than 100 folk working as civilian saturation divers. Most of these guys are Norwegian and French. 85% of commercial diving is done using SCUBA. 15% is done surface supplied. 12 percent of surface supplied work is done at less than 60 feet on air without decompression concerns. This leaves 3% of surface supplied diving involving decompression. Most of that work is visual inspection at less than 150 feet. Sustained work past 150 feet is preferably done Saturation with mixed gas. "Underwater welders" is an urban legend harkening back to saturation divers who used to maintain oil well heads in the North Sea. Saturation diving was only trained by the U.S. Navy, Duke Univ. and COMEX 30 years ago.
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Old Oct 5, 2014 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by drewc
I am a 14T patriot missile operator/maintainer. Have actually tried reclassing 3 times and every time it something ended up happening where I couldn't reclass. Because my MOS is short on people so we are ( Locked in as they call it). I do not enjoy the job lots of politics and stuff associated with it. I was thinking of going reserves and doing something on the civilian side. From what I am hearing being a helicopter pilot might be a better option. I have looked into schools for both career fields but wanted to hear from people who have experienced this type of work before I jumped into it.
Politics are unescapable regardless of profession or trade. It is much worse in the civilian world. Civilian's have rules they can change anytime they want without notice. How you blow > what you know the larger the organization you belong to. I have been in your same quandary and made the wrong decisions that saw me trapped in the corporate world. The only way to get what you want is to own your own business. Find something you love to do, and build a business around it. Rather than work 120 hours a week; you will be playing 120 hours a week. On average this route takes about 5 years of living hand to mouth before the financial rewards start to roll in.
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