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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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AUSTIN, Texas – Law enforcement officials say they believe the gunman who opened fire with an assault rifle at a University of Texas campus library before killing himself was a student who acted alone.

Campus police Chief Robert Dahlstrom at a Tuesday news conference that officials have ruled out the possibility of a second shooter. The initial confusion was because the suspect fired shots in multiple locations.

Officials say the man fired AK-47 on the sixth floor of the library early Tuesday before killing himself.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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I think he wanted some attention, no intention of killing anybody, then things got way out of hand to quickly and he shot himself.
A few of my friends were in the library & witnessed the whole ordeal.
My other friends at UT are enjoying their day off.
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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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there has been no mention of any casualties (thank god), so maybe this freak just wanted attention as you stated GC.
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:11 AM
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Yeah, glad to hear that no one else was injured. Sad story. College is a stressful time and is extremely challenging for some people to deal with.
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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The question is... How did he sneak an ak-47 on campus.
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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not hard how do u think drugs get on campus?
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Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nt7,Sep 29 2010, 12:28 PM
not hard how do u think drugs get on campus?
By being small. Ak-47s aren't exactly the same size as an ounce of weed.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 04:01 AM
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Well i could point out the lax secuirty and the ability to smuggle it in place in your vehicle as well as the lack of vehicle searching. Its pretty easy to get almost anything you want anywhere.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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Yeah, seriously... it's not like there is a moat around campus and you're patted down before crossing it. You can drive your car right through campus if you want to. If you have a bazooka in your trunk, no one will be the wiser. Want to smuggle it into your dorm? I think there are plenty of cases out there that look like guitar cases and will comfortably fit an AK-47.
It's not like somebody wasn't doing their job, and that's how this guy got on campus with a gun. It's just the nature of the environment. It's a fairly open campus in the heart of the city. It would be impossible to secure it from this type of event.
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Old Sep 30, 2010 | 05:57 AM
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The campus is open in the heart of downtown Austin. There are businesses, housing, classrooms and school admin offices right across from each other. It's part of the UT Austin charm.
There is huge gym nearby, and plenty of students carry their gym bags with them into the library and classes.

There is a lot more security in place after what Charles Whitman did in 1966
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

"Whitman arrives at the tower"
"Whitman had rented a hand truck from Austin Rental Company and cashed $250 of worthless checks at the bank before going to Davis' Hardware and purchasing an M1 carbine, explaining that he wanted to go hunting for wild hogs. He also went to Sears and purchased a shotgun and a green rifle case. After sawing off the shotgun barrel while chatting with postman Chester Arrington, Whitman packed it together with a Remington 700 6mm bolt-action hunting rifle with a 4x Leupold Scope, an M1 carbine, a Remington .35 caliber pump rifle and various other equipment stowed in a wooden crate and his Marine footlocker. He also had a .357 Magnum revolver, 9mm German Luger, and another small caliber pistol on his person. Before heading to the tower, he put khaki coveralls on over his shirt and jeans. Once in the tower, he also donned a white sweatband.[21]
Pushing the rented dolly carrying his equipment, Whitman met security guard Jack Rodman and obtained a parking pass, claiming he had a delivery to make and showing Rodman a card identifying him as a research assistant for the school. He entered the Main Building shortly after 11:30 a.m., where he struggled with the elevator until employee Vera Palmer informed him that it had not been powered and turned it on for him. He thanked her and took the elevator to the 27th floor of the tower, just one floor beneath the clock face.[8]
Whitman then lugged the dolly up one long flight of stairs to the hallway that led to a dog-legged stairway that went up to the rooms within the observation deck area. Edna Townsley was the receptionist on duty and observed Whitman's trunk and asked if he had his University work identification. He then knocked her unconscious with the butt of his rifle and dragged her body behind a couch; she later died from her injuries at Seton Hospital. Moments later, Cheryl Botts and Don Walden, a young couple who had been sightseeing on the deck, returned to the receptionist area and encountered Whitman, who was holding a rifle in each hand. Botts later claimed that she believed that the large red stain on the floor was varnish, and that Whitman was there to shoot pigeons. Whitman and the young couple exchanged hellos and the couple left for the elevators. When they were gone, Whitman barricaded the stairway."
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