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why do football players try to cheat?

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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I also like that there is only three subs. It leaves the game more in the hands of the players, not like hokey where they play 5 minutes and rotate...
again.. another instance of basketball where towards the end of the games guys get subbed in for offensive and defensive positions.

Have you skated before(hockey)? the amount of stamina that it would take a D to play 30 mins(as the top guys do) of shift time is amazing at the pro level... the game would be incredibly different if you didn't allow hockey to shift.... and FYI.. I think an average/long shift is 90 secs... the gameplay is simply too fast and physical
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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It's emotion, desire to win, and of course, the millions and millions of dollars riding upon professional sports...many millions of which is contingent upon either A) your team winning, or B) your individual performance.

Just imagine a player acknowledging that he hadn't actually made a game-winning catch. That's one player that the coach would be pretty sure of benching the next game, or who would at least get chewed out pretty damn bad.

Like it or not, these motivations overshadow integrity very quickly. This isn't specific to football or even professional sports. Cheating, as it's defined here, happens all the time and with all sorts of people, from politicians to doctors to car mechanics.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ash
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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I believe that you're under the misapprehension that pro football is a game.

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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ya, no shit.... after Favre tossed it up in OT yesterday it makes you wonder!

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I believe that you're under the misapprehension that pro football is a game.

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scot
GO STEELERS.

I am originally from pittsburgh, so I am not really an eagles fan..... although I did want them to beat green bay (what the hell was brett favre thinking when he threw that interception)???

I guess these guys are a bunch of street thugs who get paid too much, so why should they not cheat!
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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stupid Steelers!!!! One for the thumb in '81 was the motto.... ahaha.. how about one for the thumb in 2021!!!!

I agree that high school tennis is lower pressure, but...... just because something is higher pressure doesn't mean you cheat! The whole world is full of cheaters, so why shouldn't professional sports.




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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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When I was playing Colt baseball many, many years ago I had an interesting situation. I was pitching with a runner on third. A pitch got past the catcher (a passed ball, not a wild pitch - that's how I remember it) and went to the backstop. I covered home, the runner tried to steal, the catcher threw me the ball, I spun around and tagged the runner just as he was sliding into home. I don't know whether I tagged him before he touched the plate or after, but the umpire was behind me and couldn't get a good look at it, either; and I knew it. As soon as I tagged him I yelled, "He's out!", and the umpire immediately yelled, "He's out!". There's no doubt in my mind that the umpire merely said the first thing that came to mind, and I made sure that the first thing that came to his mind was in my favor. He paused, pondered a bit, then repeated, somewhat quietly, "He's out."

Was it cheating to influence the umpire that way? Should I have remained quiet and let him make his decision based on whatever "objective" evidence he had gathered?

To say the least, these are not simple questions to answer.

Perhaps one can make the argument that, because some of the officials' calls will be bad, it's a player's duty to try to counteract those bad calls that go against his team.

Perhaps.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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CHEATER

[QUOTE]Originally posted by magician
When I was playing Colt baseball many, many years ago I had an interesting situation.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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I calls 'em as I sees 'em.

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