Why do we have homeless? Serious question
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Originally Posted by cthree,May 17 2009, 10:31 AM
Traditional welfare isn't any answer and the Finns boast a little too loudly. You can't put $600 in a bank account somebody doesn't have. There will ALWAYS be homeless (hobos, bums, whatever). That is reality. Whether these people are Schizophrenics, drug addicts, abused or abandoned children, PTSD or whatever they are not going to fit into the "norm" and you can't warehouse them in an institution. They will simply exist.
Nothing is perfect and there is no single solution which fits everyone. These people are on the street because of some severe mental or psychological illness which doesn't allow them to function within a structured society. The best you can do is try to take care of them and make sure they have enough food, clothing and shelter if they want it. You can't take these people in from the street, it's what they know and it's where they want to be. If they wanted to come in they could, there is lots of assistance to get them off the street.
The only other thing you can do is try to identify those at risk early and get them the treatment and counselling that might help them take another route. We tend to prefer to react to problems after the fact rather than before in North America. By then it's too late.
Nothing is perfect and there is no single solution which fits everyone. These people are on the street because of some severe mental or psychological illness which doesn't allow them to function within a structured society. The best you can do is try to take care of them and make sure they have enough food, clothing and shelter if they want it. You can't take these people in from the street, it's what they know and it's where they want to be. If they wanted to come in they could, there is lots of assistance to get them off the street.
The only other thing you can do is try to identify those at risk early and get them the treatment and counselling that might help them take another route. We tend to prefer to react to problems after the fact rather than before in North America. By then it's too late.
they clearly don't want to be on the street. or they are just lying.
it's just too hard to pick out the ones that are legitimately upon hard times and want to rejoin society.
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Originally Posted by senor_flojo,May 18 2009, 06:52 PM
and how many homeless are in california?
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in all societies there is always gonna be a group of people that are marginalized and classified as beyond hope. mental illness or other physical disability is a major factor. its difficult to file paperwork for a govt program when your mind is still stuck in "nam" or you are missing chunks of your memory and/or limbs.
after living in san francisco aka bum heaven. i have concluded that the best strategy for "dealing" with homeless are to identify and isolate across a body of water. building large shelters only encourages more bums to flock to your city, not get them back on their feet.
what intrigues me the most about bums is their resilience. on one hand they are too batshit crazy to get free govt money, but on the other hand they are sane enough to seek out water, food, shelter, malt liquor, and clothing and can survive all while talking to themselves. what is even more impressive is bums outside of cali....i cant imagine being an eastcoast bum where everything freezes over...
after living in san francisco aka bum heaven. i have concluded that the best strategy for "dealing" with homeless are to identify and isolate across a body of water. building large shelters only encourages more bums to flock to your city, not get them back on their feet.
what intrigues me the most about bums is their resilience. on one hand they are too batshit crazy to get free govt money, but on the other hand they are sane enough to seek out water, food, shelter, malt liquor, and clothing and can survive all while talking to themselves. what is even more impressive is bums outside of cali....i cant imagine being an eastcoast bum where everything freezes over...
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I like how they call out san antonio on this episode...
I like how they call out san antonio on this episode...
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i go to local costco a lot and there is this one bum that stands there almost everyday. and i must say he probably makes decent money if not food. i always see him with food on his hand. he makes couple bucks if not more then go to costco food court and get lots of food and his belly is getting bigger and bigger.
i got some old beer in my garage and next time i go to seattle i am going to bring those and give it all to bums. i am sure they will love it. well may be not cuz it's not OE or mickeys.
i got some old beer in my garage and next time i go to seattle i am going to bring those and give it all to bums. i am sure they will love it. well may be not cuz it's not OE or mickeys.
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