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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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met a person today who insisted that there are women who like it when their bf likes pornography or they themselves like watching it. thoughts?
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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They are out there. Is that really a surprise?
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gosixers215,Jul 14 2006, 08:55 PM
They are out there. Is that really a surprise?
+1. Seriously. Is it surprising in the least? There are guys out there that like chicks to piss on them too. To me, that is MUCH more surprising than a girl liking $$$$$$. Hell, I know more than a few who do.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Of course there are. There are people of all sorts. And here's a surprise, there are people who kill and rape for fun and amusement.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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I have nothing to add to the above posters statements in terms of it being usual/unusual - common/uncommon.

In terms of anything else;

One side says if all parties are consenting adults, then no harm no foul.

One side says that pRon is inherently exploitive. . . that it appeals to only our most base of wants, and does not fulfill any higher need, etc. (and not a necessarily negative etc.)

If there's a debate, it's between those sides, IMHO. (I'm on the fence this week).
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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A couple things at play here...

With 6B people on this planet, should anything surprise you?

Its a constant battle between capitalism and morality.

Capitalism and shareholder maximization say that anything, good or bad should be done to attain the almighty dollar.

Morality? it's what those in power use to keep others from obtaining the power that they want to keep to themselves.
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 09:25 PM
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its probably suprising in the sense that you did not excpect a certain women to watch it but its not suprising in general that women watch it. if that made any sense
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by geoff2005,Jul 15 2006, 12:25 AM
its probably suprising in the sense that you did not excpect a certain women to watch it but its not suprising in general that women watch it. if that made any sense
made sense to me and I agree with it
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Old Jul 14, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ash,Jul 14 2006, 09:00 PM
A couple things at play here...

With 6B people on this planet, should anything surprise you?

Its a constant battle between capitalism and morality.

Capitalism and shareholder maximization say that anything, good or bad should be done to attain the almighty dollar.

Morality? it's what those in power use to keep others from obtaining the power that they want to keep to themselves.
The last two points make little to no sense. When big complex terms are consolidated and condensed into simplified axioms or phrases, I get a bit miffed.





As for the OP, as other people have stated, there is no surprise that there are women out there, who like $$$$$$. Sure, I don't know any women that like to watch it, but my GF, for one doesn't mind that I do(sometimes).



As for a discussion of whether $$$$$$ is right or wrong, I think that $$$$$$ is and does reach out to our "old brain." And I try to stay away from what is easy, or "base" when it comes to human behavior. I try to use rationality and reason, to live my life. I do have reservations about $$$$$$, and what it symbolizes, but as of right now it doesn't really bug me.

$$$$$$ just falls into a catagory of vice, which should be experienced, but not dwelled in for too long. I don't want to see it banned, but I would like to see more (men) release that energy into different areas.

Perhaps, ironically, if we were even more open about sex (in a constructive way) that we would see some changes in our society. But that's a totally different thread.

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Old Jul 15, 2006 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by IheartS2ks,Jul 14 2006, 09:48 PM
The last two points make little to no sense. When big complex terms are consolidated and condensed into simplified axioms or phrases, I get a bit miffed.

Maybe I'm bit callous or cynical. Somehow in my blockbuster queue, Syrianna and The Constant Gardener were sent to me back to back. In short - Syrianna was supposed to portray the US involvement in oil countries, the Constant Gardener was supposed to depict pharmacutical firms using 3rd world countries as testing grounds. In neither cases, were the actions taken humane, but so long as people were getting "their cut," it is allowed to continue.

As for the other, I believe morality to be a set of ideals or standards which constantly changes to include or exclude whoever the person pointing the finger wants. My point is that there doesn't need to be a finger pointing at all, or we don't need to value what the finger pointer says either.
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