I'm going to assume that was a sarcastic comment.

 

In response to ash and diamond dave


For the most part I agree, however there is contention about whether morals are man-made or if they are part of a larger scheme.

For instance read Plato and his allegory of the cave. He roughy states that everything in the "worldly" world has a "perfect" representation up in the "heavens". Meaning anything from "trees" to "justice" has it's perfect counterpart in the sky. Stating that there is a "right" way for everything to be.

This isn't a religious and many people, believe this tacitly or otherwise.

And of course you know that there are plenty of religons that preach morality based off of a higher being.

So there is, I think, always going to be a contention, of whether or not morals are man-made.

However I do agree that they are man-made, and that morals in general are social agreements that have, had, has, it's foundation in religion.

I used to think that religion was "bad", insofar as it kept people down and subserviently moral. However now I think that there is a lot to be gained from religion, if, (and this is a big if), one is open minded enough, and has the ability to see what it is for themselves.

So I guess I don't see the effect, or degree to which the "finger pointers" exist. I dictate my own moral code and that's all that matters. Yes I do sometimes "worry" about others who may be morally "brainwashed", but not too much.

I would like to see more people use reason, but with reason also comes responsibility and that in turn is a moral proposition; it comes around and around... So I try to help people and kids to think for themselves, and that's the best I can do.

 

I was raised Christian... and "attended and subscribed" the church through high school and such.... since then I have become a bit disenchanted, or I just haven't found a "Church" that I'm willing to associate, or that I believe shares the beliefs, or interprets the values in a solid equilibrium of values and self-enrichment.

My main problem with "churches"(read as my general opinion, don't go down the "but I know of one that ....") is that they encourage people to subcribe to them(attend, pay offerings etc.) but do nothing to really care and make sure that those who do go and attend really grow on their own. For many of the youth groups that I've seen, they are little more than social groups for otherwise dorky people. They do little to help each other through problems other than "have faith in XXX, and it will all be better."

I believe you might not see "finger pointers" as those who are dictating your own moral code as you DO think for yourself, and IMO, that excludes you from the "target group" that religions generally prey upon.

Just remember, the fruit from the tree that Adam ate from was "knowledge." Now why wouldn't we all want another piece of that in us?

I think the world could all use a bit more knowledge and rationale in the people around us.

 

Lucky bastard, I have to wait til she leaves the house for my pron time. I think pron is actually good for some relationships. Lets face it, some women dont put out like they should and pron is the closest thing to it without being unfaithful. I need it everyday or I am a dik to everyone for that whole day.