http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caranddrive...test_dundee.xml

 

Yeah, they're kind of cool if you like big heavy sedans. Nice for taking the family on trips - not really my scene. In the end they're not much faster than an S2000 in a straight line and wouldn't catch one on a twisty road. They do OK in production racing though, since they're allowed weight reduction and they fit a full cage for stiffness plus much better suspension.

The biggest problem though is quality issues since they're based on a very lowly family sedan. Though it might be a bit quicker than an M5 round the Nurburgring it's not as sophisticated all round.

 

No doubt, but the S2000 is not a family car. There are times when more than two seats are needed. The target car for me next is a M5. I think buying the HSV is like buying a camaro. If one gets one, it certainly wouldn't be for build quality. I mean after all it is a GM. hehe.

-Shing

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by shingles
[B]No doubt, but the S2000 is not a family car.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by naishou
[B]

Fair comment.

 

why or how?

I think it's easy to spend $20k in mods for a given car. Cars like the WRX... internal mods, turbo mods, IC mod, ECU mod, suspension mod, tires and wheels... it adds up and adds up fast.

I'll say this much, I'd much rather spend $20k modding the WRX than the S2000. With the WRX, there will be MUCH more results... although I don't know how you could spend $20k at this point on the S2000 since the market isn't that large yet.

Naishou,
I think you are correct, I wasn't thinking about the WRX when I posted. Although I have to say, I think the S4 is more appealing... but I think if M5 was the targe, the A6 2.7T would probably be a better choice purely based on size.

I love my S2000... I love my CRX... but when driving 700 miles each weekend, the maxima feels better. Having said that, I hate the way my maxima rides. I want a stiff sedan, stiff as in chassis and ride. My maxima, even with aftermarket suspension work, rides like a caddy. This no doubt is due to me liking stiff rides. Cars like the M5 fits what I am looking for... although I suspect the WRX would fit as well....

-Shing

 

I've never been excited by Commodores. In the 70's Holden and Ford made some exciting cars like the Torana XU-1 and XA-XB Coupe, but since then it's been a case of a family car on steroids. If you like to race in your lounge room then this is the car for you.

But all that said and done Holden's Commodore coupe or Monaro, or whatever they've decided to call it this week may just raise my hackles again.

 

pppfffttt! Holdens & Fords. The Aussie version of 'der people's car'. Every yob has one. <flamesuit on>

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by amartin
[B]

Umm... I'm not claiming to be smart or anything..but what the f*ck would you put 20-30k of upgrades into a 23k car?

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by shingles
[B]why or how?

I think it's easy to spend $20k in mods for a given car.