**Official non-staggered & meaty tires thread**
#3661
Registered User
Hey guys I’m not sure if I’ll get a reply on this thread, it’s an old thread. But I have recently been looking into getting some new wheels and tires for my car and I’m unsure about the fitment. I either want to run 18x9 +35 squared but I’m unsure what size tire to run. I don’t want any stretched tires. Anyone can help with that it’ll be greatly appreciated. I’m also thinking if not a squared set up I’ll do a staggered which would be 18x9 +35 in the front and 18x9.5 + 22 in the rears, I am also unsure of what tires to run with this set up. Please help me and hopefully I get a response.
On a 9" wheel, 245/40 and 255/40 = no stretch. I don't think 18x9 +35 with 245/40 would fit without a lot of camber or fender work.
You'll definitely need wider fenders or over-fenders or run a stretched tire like a 215 or 225 if you want 18x9 +35 to fit.
For reference, this guy is running 18x9 +35 in the front with a 215 tire and 18x9.5 +38 in the rear with a 235. I believe his fenders are rolled but not pulled.
#3662
Are your fenders stock? 18x9 +35 is really aggressive for stock fenders. The stock fenders would need to be pulled and rolled depending on the tire size.
On a 9" wheel, 245/40 and 255/40 = no stretch. I don't think 18x9 +35 with 245/40 would fit without a lot of camber or fender work.
You'll definitely need wider fenders or over-fenders or run a stretched tire like a 215 or 225 if you want 18x9 +35 to fit.
For reference, this guy is running 18x9 +35 in the front with a 215 tire and 18x9.5 +38 in the rear with a 235. I believe his fenders are rolled but not pulled. This guy
On a 9" wheel, 245/40 and 255/40 = no stretch. I don't think 18x9 +35 with 245/40 would fit without a lot of camber or fender work.
You'll definitely need wider fenders or over-fenders or run a stretched tire like a 215 or 225 if you want 18x9 +35 to fit.
For reference, this guy is running 18x9 +35 in the front with a 215 tire and 18x9.5 +38 in the rear with a 235. I believe his fenders are rolled but not pulled. This guy
#3663
9.5+22 won't fit under stock, rolled fenders without using like -7 deg of camber. The width and offsets are WAY too agressive to work. Has nothing to do with wheel diameter.
Why do you want those widths/offsets? 9.5+22 is agressive for even like...a 350Z. I'm guessing you've found some "Avid1's" you like?
~9+40 is about the absolute limit of stock fenders without running super skinny tires or a crazy amount of camber. You'll need totally flattened fenders and the front tabs to be cut. Rear tab has to be cut off and relocated. And you need to run at least -3 deg of camber, using upper joints.
9+35 is a questionable fit. It takes a lot of work and you'll still rub.
I'm assuming you plan to lower the car?
I would google the fitments you're after and find people who are actually running them. Find out what they needed to do.
Also, get an understanding of how all this will affect your tire wear/steering (if you care about functional aspects).
Also, you're posting this question in a thread that has photos and listed fitments. Scroll up, perhaps?
Last edited by B serious; 12-28-2021 at 06:40 AM.
#3664
No.
9.5+22 won't fit under stock, rolled fenders without using like -7 deg of camber. The width and offsets are WAY too agressive to work. Has nothing to do with wheel diameter.
Why do you want those widths/offsets? 9.5+22 is agressive for even like...a 350Z. I'm guessing you've found some "Avid1's" you like?
~9+40 is about the absolute limit of stock fenders without running super skinny tires or a crazy amount of camber. You'll need totally flattened fenders and the front tabs to be cut. Rear tab has to be cut off and relocated. And you need to run at least -3 deg of camber, using upper joints.
9+35 is a questionable fit. It takes a lot of work and you'll still rub.
I'm assuming you plan to lower the car?
I would google the fitments you're after and find people who are actually running them. Find out what they needed to do.
Also, get an understanding of how all this will affect your tire wear/steering (if you care about functional aspects).
Also, you're posting this question in a thread that has photos and listed fitments. Scroll up, perhaps?
9.5+22 won't fit under stock, rolled fenders without using like -7 deg of camber. The width and offsets are WAY too agressive to work. Has nothing to do with wheel diameter.
Why do you want those widths/offsets? 9.5+22 is agressive for even like...a 350Z. I'm guessing you've found some "Avid1's" you like?
~9+40 is about the absolute limit of stock fenders without running super skinny tires or a crazy amount of camber. You'll need totally flattened fenders and the front tabs to be cut. Rear tab has to be cut off and relocated. And you need to run at least -3 deg of camber, using upper joints.
9+35 is a questionable fit. It takes a lot of work and you'll still rub.
I'm assuming you plan to lower the car?
I would google the fitments you're after and find people who are actually running them. Find out what they needed to do.
Also, get an understanding of how all this will affect your tire wear/steering (if you care about functional aspects).
Also, you're posting this question in a thread that has photos and listed fitments. Scroll up, perhaps?
#3668
Moderator
Im trying to run some Kansei Tandems but it seems like they might not work on stock fenders. So Im back to looking. I just want a nice and drivable look that isn’t stretched. I’m already on coilovers. Thank you for your help and if you have any suggestions on what I should run that won’t require an extreme amount of camber and would not require spacers let me know. I’ll greatly appreciate it and I will go back up to look at these fitments. You are very knowledge on this topic and I am trying to learn as well.
17x9.5 +47 with a 255/40/17 RS4 all around. Origin Fabrication offset bushing up front, -2.8 camber all around. Fenders are rolled front and rear.
The car is very usable. Clears speed bumps without issue, drive way inclines, ect. I'm able to drive it like a normal car without worry. For what it's worth the fitment is still tight enough that the tire has burned off the clear bra from the inside edge of the fender. The paint is undamaged. As far as I'm concerned this sizing set up is pretty much perfect for a stock bodied car. It's going to be difficult and expensive to find CEs in this spec, but if you use the sizing as a guide I'm sure you can find a different wheel that fits similar.
#3669
~9+40 is about the absolute limit of stock fenders without running super skinny tires or a crazy amount of camber. You'll need totally flattened fenders and the front tabs to be cut. Rear tab has to be cut off and relocated. And you need to run at least -3 deg of camber, using upper joints.
a 9+35 I'd agree with, but a 9+40 is an easy fitment.
#3670
~9+40 is about the absolute limit of stock fenders without running super skinny tires or a crazy amount of camber. You'll need totally flattened fenders and the front tabs to be cut. Rear tab has to be cut off and relocated. And you need to run at least -3 deg of camber, using upper joints
9+35 is a questionable fit. It takes a lot of work and you'll still rub.
Thats not true. I ran 17x9+40 with a 245/40/17 RE11A on my AP1 and the fenders were just rolled and the tab relocated in the rear. No pulling, no massive amounts of camber. It never once rubbed with Swift Spec R springs.
a 9+35 I'd agree with, but a 9+40 is an easy fitment.
a 9+35 I'd agree with, but a 9+40 is an easy fitment.
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You sure you disagree with my post? You've just repeated what I said...
I said 17x9+40 is the limit of what works with reasonable tire sizing, fenders rolled flat, and tab relocated.
I also said 17x9+35 takes a lot more effort to work.
That's only a 5mm difference. Meaning 40 is the edge of the limit.
Also, you were using stock shocks and springs. Meaning you were almost always on the bumpstop and the shock body was limiting further travel past the factory intended point.
With fully adjustable coilovers, you'd have more issues, as there would be added shock travel. So with coilovers at the same height...you would need to trim off the front fender tab.
Last edited by B serious; 01-09-2022 at 09:48 AM.
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