The quest for "Flushness" using AP2 OEM Wheels!
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Originally Posted by stolitonic22,Apr 12 2010, 10:05 PM
some conflicting information i saw in regards to ap2 v3s with 15mm spacers...
please clarify - will they work? or the wheels cannot take the protrusion?
and which spacers should i buy?
will be running either 245 or 255 in the rears (haven't decided), fenders have been rolled... and dropped just about 1 inch on PSS9s..
thanks.
please clarify - will they work? or the wheels cannot take the protrusion?
and which spacers should i buy?
will be running either 245 or 255 in the rears (haven't decided), fenders have been rolled... and dropped just about 1 inch on PSS9s..
thanks.
You need at least 20mm for v3s, if all you want to do is bolt on...
I'm using 20mm all around...
You can find pics on previous pages
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here's some more info for those of you to assist:
Integral spacer definition = spacer with new studs so they bolt right on
H/R only makes Integral spacers in 25mm with new studs but the problem is it's too wide for most s2000's!
Project Kics has Integral spacers in 20mm but they are not hubcentric unless you buy separate rings.
**H/R spacers is the BEST QUALITY BAR NONE in terms of material used. I've already stripped a few studs on "other" brands, trust me H/R is the best quality by far....all those other JDM brands use weaker metal.
OEM ap2 v3 rims do NOT have the rear recessed holes so essentially it's the same as that picture I posted with my NSX wheel. This means you MUST use a 20mm+ Integral spacer to clear the oem studs.
s2000 owners in general will want NO MORE than 15mm spacers if you do not want to destroy your fenders. Quite frankly I think 10mm is the safest if you want to be safe, especially if you are dropped. Does not matter what springs/coilovers or stiffness that make you think you are special, YOU ARE NOT!
People asked me why I can run 20mm up front and the reason is the OEM NSX wheel is 17x7, +60 (5mm less aggressive than OEM s2000 which is 17x7, +55)
So essentially I'm only running a 15mm spacer (20-5=15mm) Got it?
rick
Integral spacer definition = spacer with new studs so they bolt right on
H/R only makes Integral spacers in 25mm with new studs but the problem is it's too wide for most s2000's!
Project Kics has Integral spacers in 20mm but they are not hubcentric unless you buy separate rings.
**H/R spacers is the BEST QUALITY BAR NONE in terms of material used. I've already stripped a few studs on "other" brands, trust me H/R is the best quality by far....all those other JDM brands use weaker metal.
OEM ap2 v3 rims do NOT have the rear recessed holes so essentially it's the same as that picture I posted with my NSX wheel. This means you MUST use a 20mm+ Integral spacer to clear the oem studs.
s2000 owners in general will want NO MORE than 15mm spacers if you do not want to destroy your fenders. Quite frankly I think 10mm is the safest if you want to be safe, especially if you are dropped. Does not matter what springs/coilovers or stiffness that make you think you are special, YOU ARE NOT!
People asked me why I can run 20mm up front and the reason is the OEM NSX wheel is 17x7, +60 (5mm less aggressive than OEM s2000 which is 17x7, +55)
So essentially I'm only running a 15mm spacer (20-5=15mm) Got it?
rick
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Originally Posted by s4play,Apr 14 2010, 03:19 PM
here's some more info for those of you to assist:
Integral spacer definition = spacer with new studs so they bolt right on
H/R only makes Integral spacers in 25mm with new studs but the problem is it's too wide for most s2000's!
Project Kics has Integral spacers in 20mm but they are not hubcentric unless you buy separate rings.
**H/R spacers is the BEST QUALITY BAR NONE in terms of material used. I've already stripped a few studs on "other" brands, trust me H/R is the best quality by far....all those other JDM brands use weaker metal.
OEM ap2 v3 rims do NOT have the rear recessed holes so essentially it's the same as that picture I posted with my NSX wheel. This means you MUST use a 20mm+ Integral spacer to clear the oem studs.
s2000 owners in general will want NO MORE than 15mm spacers if you do not want to destroy your fenders. Quite frankly I think 10mm is the safest if you want to be safe, especially if you are dropped. Does not matter what springs/coilovers or stiffness that make you think you are special, YOU ARE NOT!
People asked me why I can run 20mm up front and the reason is the OEM NSX wheel is 17x7, +60 (5mm less aggressive than OEM s2000 which is 17x7, +55)
So essentially I'm only running a 15mm spacer (20-5=15mm) Got it?
rick
Integral spacer definition = spacer with new studs so they bolt right on
H/R only makes Integral spacers in 25mm with new studs but the problem is it's too wide for most s2000's!
Project Kics has Integral spacers in 20mm but they are not hubcentric unless you buy separate rings.
**H/R spacers is the BEST QUALITY BAR NONE in terms of material used. I've already stripped a few studs on "other" brands, trust me H/R is the best quality by far....all those other JDM brands use weaker metal.
OEM ap2 v3 rims do NOT have the rear recessed holes so essentially it's the same as that picture I posted with my NSX wheel. This means you MUST use a 20mm+ Integral spacer to clear the oem studs.
s2000 owners in general will want NO MORE than 15mm spacers if you do not want to destroy your fenders. Quite frankly I think 10mm is the safest if you want to be safe, especially if you are dropped. Does not matter what springs/coilovers or stiffness that make you think you are special, YOU ARE NOT!
People asked me why I can run 20mm up front and the reason is the OEM NSX wheel is 17x7, +60 (5mm less aggressive than OEM s2000 which is 17x7, +55)
So essentially I'm only running a 15mm spacer (20-5=15mm) Got it?
rick
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Originally Posted by fishs2000,Mar 4 2010, 10:14 AM
Alright, here is the debate:
15mm / 20mm or 20mm / 25mm ??
Im only lowered on Tein S-techs (about 1" drop) and running stock 215/245
with the 15 / 20 would I need to roll?
with the 20 / 25 would I need to roll?
Also, ive been through this thread a few times and this hasnt really been answered. With the ap2 v1's, there ARE recessed dimples on the back of the wheel. That being said, are 15mm spacers too small to maintain keeping the oem studs? Or do you need to cut the oem studs with 15mm spcaers?
Thanks.
15mm / 20mm or 20mm / 25mm ??
Im only lowered on Tein S-techs (about 1" drop) and running stock 215/245
with the 15 / 20 would I need to roll?
with the 20 / 25 would I need to roll?
Also, ive been through this thread a few times and this hasnt really been answered. With the ap2 v1's, there ARE recessed dimples on the back of the wheel. That being said, are 15mm spacers too small to maintain keeping the oem studs? Or do you need to cut the oem studs with 15mm spcaers?
Thanks.
15mm spacers will work with the recessed holes of the AP2 V1/V2s. I have a set and they work.
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Originally Posted by s4play,Apr 14 2010, 03:19 PM
s2000 owners in general will want NO MORE than 15mm spacers if you do not want to destroy your fenders. Quite frankly I think 10mm is the safest if you want to be safe, especially if you are dropped. Does not matter what springs/coilovers or stiffness that make you think you are special, YOU ARE NOT!
rick
rick
If you're trying to be "flush" or anywhere near it with spacers, and you're dropped -- YOU NEED TO ROLL YOUR FENDERS. If you don't, your FENDERS WILL EVENTUALLY GET PULLED OUT. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. You'll cry, and we'll tell you we told you so.
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Originally Posted by Glenn6one9,Apr 14 2010, 03:07 PM
When using Project Kics spacers, 15mm WILL NOT work...unless you want to shave/cut your OEM studs...
You need at least 20mm for v3s, if all you want to do is bolt on...
I'm using 20mm all around...
You can find pics on previous pages
You need at least 20mm for v3s, if all you want to do is bolt on...
I'm using 20mm all around...
You can find pics on previous pages
thanks.
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Originally Posted by danvuquoc,Apr 14 2010, 04:54 PM
Rick, H&R has a set of 20mm hubcentric spacers with integrated studs, I know, I have them on my front wheels
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Originally Posted by stolitonic22,Apr 15 2010, 12:49 PM
where did you buy your H&R Spacers? i want to buy 20mm for the front and rear... is there a difference?
thanks
thanks