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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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I was replacing a few things on my gf's 91 accord exr today. Of all the problems to encounter, I just have to encounter one that's related to doing an oil change!

I noticed that when I try to put back the oil plug (bolt) into the oil pan, it will tighten and then it will loosen again. Upon inspection of the bolt with a friend, we saw that the threads on the bolt was virtually fudged. Friend of mine gave me one of his extra one. When I used my friend's, the bolt would stop halfway. So we suspect it's the thread on the oil pan that's fudged.

So right now, the fudge up bolt is in there but with an oil leak, probably takes 1 hr to produce 1 drop.

What are my options, other than buying a new oil pan?
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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I'll let Dave confirm this, but I do believe you just have to re-tap the threads with a special drill bit
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Yes, try the oilpan thread re-tap. Find out what the thread size and pitch is and get the appropriate tap and run it in (use the bolt as the guide). Your biggest problem will be keeping the shavings out of the oilpan. Coat the tap with a heavy grease or Vaseline. When done, use Q-tips the swab out the inner surface around the hole to get any grease that might be there. Put in a new plug bolt. Don't use the old one.

If this doesn't work, you'll have to remove the oilpan and put in a new threaded hole that's a bit bigger than the original. This will involve drilling out the old threads, re-tapping the threads to a bigger size and getting a new plug bolt of that size.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Or getting a nut welded in with appropriate threads. Thread inserts are also possible but not the best option, considering how thin the pan is.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Of course, Gary has the better idea if the initial tap won't fix it.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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I called a couple of reputable auto tech shop and they want $215 to do the weld-a-nut method (which is what they both recommended)

Or I can get a new aftermarket oil pan for $100 and replace it myself. I think the problem I'd run into is having to unbolt the downpipe or exhaust first Rusty bolts and all

I supposed the re-tap method that Dave mentioned would be a good (and cheap) start.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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Ok. I went hunting for a tap that's 14/1.25. No luck. House of Tools, Rona, Cdn Tire, don't have that size. Any more stores you guys can think of?
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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Look in the yellow pages for "fasteners".
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Here's a good reason not to perform you're own oil changes.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Now, now, Ian. Haven't you seen all the horror stories about dealer oil changes? I have many of them bookmarked for quick reference. I know you take pride in your dealership's (T&T) competence, but if anyone wants to know about what Calgary Honda did to BlackS2000's car when they changed his oil, just ask. And then there's that ugly business about the spark plug recall and what they did with those.
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