DFWs2k

I took my s2000 to be aligned today, and they said they were unable to adjust rear camber due to the "dog ears" on the rear subframe being bent, but this description of how to align (http://www.2carpros.com/forum/here-vp1033421.html) does not make any mention of the "ears".

Are they just BSing me?

They said I would need to have a new rear subframe (new rear subframe = unbroken off "ears") put in before my car could be aligned.

Also the guy said he checked with his honda guy and that this is really common on hondas and s2000s, which i've never heard before.

From the description i read on the link, it looks like you just loosen B and turn A, and that you don't necessarily have to worry about the ears. But I don't really know anything about this.

robinson

I have no idea what this guy is talking about. You need a second opinion.

DFWs2k

yea that's what i thought, they were able to "adjust it" from -2.1 to -1.7 on the driver's side to -2.6 to -3.2 on the passenger side

I would've been better off not wasting my time there.

User 121020

I've seen it happen before. The "ears" can be seen in this image:



The ears locate the outer diameter of the adjuster eccentric. If you hit a curb, have a big off-track excursion or something along those lines, the ears bend over flat and no longer keep the eccentric in the proper location.

You should be able to see all of them by taking a look under your car. The front subframe also has the ears on the lower control arm mount.

DFWs2k

Would that keep it from being aligned though?

User 121020

If the only damage is the bent over tabs, then the shop should have been able to even out the alignment. If they weren't able to even out the alignment, something could be bent....subframe, lower control arm, knuckle, etc.

Has the car been in any accidents?

DFWs2k

Not recently, and I've gotten aligned 2 times in the past month and they havent had a problem w rear, and no one has brought this up before, the tech looked hungover when he got my keys and didn't seem like he knew what he was doing, I really don't think he even looked at the self locking nut on the other side, and that he just turned the part shown in the above picture and broke the tabs

User 121020

Yeah...sounds like you should take it elsewhere.

I don't think he would have caused any damage to the tabs during a half-assed alignment attempt. It would take a pretty serious impact to damage the tabs.

aCab

Uhhhh, two alignments in the past month? WTF?

DFWs2k

[QUOTE=aCab,Nov 8 2010, 01:14 AM] Uhhhh, two alignments in the past month?