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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 12:59 PM
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Hey guys, I tried to do a search but there doesn't seem to be much out there on cup kits for the s2000. They look like a good way to keep the performance of a coilover, and the stay low while being able to raise up the car when needed(going over speed bumps, driveways etc) With some googling I've found umbrella the VRH cup kit and phantom air cup kits used on other cars. Does anyone have any experience with these? and why are they not as popular with our cars? Does seem quite expensive, and added weight would be a con, but otherwise I think they could be a good option for us street guys that might hit the track on occasion.
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Old Apr 21, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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I have done a great deal of research on this and just recently finished installing the iLift suspension cup kit all by myself. By far the most complete kit. My advice is to forget the phantom cup kit. I'll leave it at that. Also from my measurements their cups will not fit without body modifications. They are too big for the S.
Here is a video of mine in action iLift suspension cup kit

The iLift system uses a very small tank (3/4 gallon) compared to 3 gallon from all the other guys. The whole assembly fits nicely in the recessed tool compartment in the trunk and you can make a lid for it so you have a full flat trunk. Instructions are top notch. Owner of the company has an NSX and has been nothing but great regarding any questions I have had.
I researched Roberuta, Exotic Air, VRH, Phantom and iLift. I'm very happy with the results. The VRH kit is also a good kit but not as well thought out. Had I not known about the iLift I would have probably gone with them. All the other ones don't even compare.
My car will be going to the body shop with a new voltex race bumper so this was a must given how low my car is and how wonderful our streets are here in So. Cal.
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 09:50 AM
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oh I have seen the ilift for nsxs and it looks great, they are a more expensive than the other kits though. Do you have the full automatic system? i would think that the proximity sensors would be an easy point of failure, like getting hit by a rock or something.
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dohntaut
oh I have seen the ilift for nsxs and it looks great, they are a more expensive than the other kits though. Do you have the full automatic system? i would think that the proximity sensors would be an easy point of failure, like getting hit by a rock or something.
I opted for the semi automatic version that didn't include the sensors. It is semi automatic in that the car will lower itself if it goes faster than a predetermined speed of say 25 mph, this number is adjustable to whatever number you select. You can also lower it with the toggle switch. They may be more expensive but not by much, you really do get what you pay for. The customer service is among the best I've dealt with.

They do not use O-rings in their cups and the cups are sealed from dust and contaminants. This is important as debris over time will prevent the cups from working at their optimum level.
I really looked at all the systems very closely and this one blows them all away. The phantom and exotic air kits use paddle valve air switches which essentially route the air line into your dash. Those systems vent the air right behind the switch. I prefer the air to vent at the Tank/compressor area. Also the tank size makes a difference. This system is so efficient that it doesn't need a large 3 gallon tank therefore it also doesn't need a large compressor to fill the tank.

The iLift is also the only one to have a safety feature which prevents you from activating the cups if you are going say 70mph on the freeway.
The VRH requires you to send your coilovers in for him to install the cups on there. The instructions were so spot on that I did everything myself which saved at least $500 on the install.
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by S2k_fever
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oh I have seen the ilift for nsxs and it looks great, they are a more expensive than the other kits though. Do you have the full automatic system? i would think that the proximity sensors would be an easy point of failure, like getting hit by a rock or something.
I opted for the semi automatic version that didn't include the sensors. It is semi automatic in that the car will lower itself if it goes faster than a predetermined speed of say 25 mph, this number is adjustable to whatever number you select. You can also lower it with the toggle switch. They may be more expensive but not by much, you really do get what you pay for. The customer service is among the best I've dealt with.

They do not use O-rings in their cups and the cups are sealed from dust and contaminants. This is important as debris over time will prevent the cups from working at their optimum level.
I really looked at all the systems very closely and this one blows them all away. The phantom and exotic air kits use paddle valve air switches which essentially route the air line into your dash. Those systems vent the air right behind the switch. I prefer the air to vent at the Tank/compressor area. Also the tank size makes a difference. This system is so efficient that it doesn't need a large 3 gallon tank therefore it also doesn't need a large compressor to fill the tank.

The iLift is also the only one to have a safety feature which prevents you from activating the cups if you are going say 70mph on the freeway.
The VRH requires you to send your coilovers in for him to install the cups on there. The instructions were so spot on that I did everything myself which saved at least $500 on the install.
This is my first post on S2K1.

I just became a member a minute ago to introduce myself and our Patented and newly released iLIFT(R) Intelligent Suspension Lift Systems to your forum. S2K_fever did a great job of the iLIFT(R) installation. I was expecting him to contact us with at least a few questions during his installation... and before I know it, he had it up and running. Congrats!!!

I spent over 8 years and 10,000 hours and many hundreds of thousands of dollars developing the iLIFT(R) Systems. They are unique and revolutionary in many ways.

The fully automatic upgrade is useful for when you "forget" to manually activate the lift system.
Personally, I almost always manually activate the iLIFT(R) system when I know that my car needs added ground clearance. This allows me to drive faster over speed bumps without worry about scraping. On occasion when I "forget" to lift or I "misjudge" the need to lift the car, the automatic lift feature on my iLIFT(R) saves the front lip of my NSX from scraping.

If anyone would like to learn more about the iLIFT(R)Systems you can check out our website at: iLiftSystems.com.
The website has a lot of information and videos of the iLIFT(R) in action.

I typically work 80 hours a week so I don't have much time to spend on forums.
If you would like more specific information of if you have any questions for your specific car, feel free to email me or call me.

Best Regards,

Steven Lee
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Stealth Innovative Systems, LLC
Ph. 559-GO-ILIFT (559-464-5438)
email: Steven@iLiftSystems.com
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Old Apr 22, 2014 | 07:08 PM
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Im looking into a cup system for my car to save my voltex front bumper. I was wondering what is the price range for the system as i can find anything related to price on there.
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by thait
Im looking into a cup system for my car to save my voltex front bumper. I was wondering what is the price range for the system as i can find anything related to price on there.
We are still offering our Introductory Pricing until we get final pricing for the assembly of iLIFT(R) Systems. I will be travelling to California in the next few weeks to work with our assembly contractor to work out the assembly and order fulfillment costs. Until that time, we are assembling the systems ourselves (and working 80 hours a week) and we're offering the Introductory Pricing listed below.

The base price for a front only Semi-Automatic iLIFT(R) Intelligent Suspension Lift System is currently $2,995.

This "Base" system is much more sophisticated than any other system on the market.
It features the ECU and speed integration and cruise control integration as shown on our website videos at: iLIFT, www.iLiftSystems.com.

You can upgrade the front only system to add the rear lift for a cost of $1,000.

You can also upgrade to the Fully-Automatic iLIFT(R) system that includes 4 ground clearance sensors at the bottom of the front lip to monitor your vehicle's ground clearance. If you forget to raise your car and the sensors detect inadequate ground clearance, the sensors will automatically raise the car for you.
After 10 seconds of "all clear" the Fully-Automatic iLIFT(R) System will automatically lower your car.

If you have a front and rear iLIFT(R) System and you upgrade to the Fully-Automatic option, you will receive 2 additional ground clearance sensors for under the sides of your car. If the side sensors detect inadequate ground clearances (that you calibrate to your preferences) the iLIFT(R) system will raise the front and rear of your vehicle to give maximum clearance at the center of your car.
The Fully-Automatic feature is Patented and truly revolutionary. The cost of the Fully-Automatic upgrade is $1,000.
The Fully-automatic features are purely a luxury and you don't really "need" them. iLIFT(r) systems are very easy to operate Semi-Automatically.
With that said, I like having the Fully-Automatic features om my car. I normally manually raise my car whenever I know that it will need additional ground clearance. Sometimes I "forget" to raise the car and the automatic feature saves my front lip from scraping.
Another benefit is the coolness factor. I'm not into bling, but whenever anyone sees the car raise itself for the first time, they can't believe their eyes.
I get a kick out of surprising people by sticking my foot under the front lip and "kicking up my car".

All iLIFT(R) Systems come with a powerful ECU that communicates with our vehicle's electronics and controls the iLIFT(R) System.
The ECU monitors the vehicle's speed either through a vehicle speed wire (included in the base price).
The ECU has a built in OBDII scanner.
If your vehicle doesn't have a speed wire that you can access, or if you simply prefer the ease of plugging into the OBDII port, you can purchase the optional hardware to use your car's OBDII port instead of tapping into a vehicle speed wire. The optional OBDII connection hardware costs $100.

The iLIFT(R) Systems are fundamentally very different from any other lift system.
For example, iLIFT(R) Systems feature our proprietary and patented "closed cylinder and piston assembly". The cylinder bores and piston seals are protected from contaminants such as road splash that is prevalent in the wheel wells. All other pneumatic lift systems that we know of have bare, exposed cylinder bores that accumulate dirt and grit. Every time the lift system is activated, the piston seals rub against these contaminants and the cylinder bores. We discovered this damage and contaminant problem very early in our product development and testing. Rather than sell an imperfect product, we delayed the release of the iLIFT(R) Systems while we developed our patented systems to protect the cylinder bores and piston seals from contaminants.
This is just one example of the very many innovative features and benefits that you get with an iLIFT(R) Intelligent Lift System.

With the iLIFT(R) you can set your ride height as low as you want for driving without having to worry about having it high enough to drive over obstacles such as speed bumps and driveways. Whenever you need additional ground clearance, the iLIFT(R) can raise your car to get over any obstacle.

If you would like any additional information, please let me know.

Steven Lee
Manager
Stealth Innovative Systems, LLC
sales@iLiftSystems.com
Ph. 559-GO-ILIFT (559-464-5438)
www.iLiftSystems.com
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