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Old 04-13-2017, 07:57 PM
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Here's my review of the Blacktrax/Kingpin spherical setup:
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It rides much smoother than the stock bushings ever did. Hell, it rides smoother than my DD, a Lexus CT200h.
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Holy crap those are pricey. Wonder why they say for AP2 only? Arent the control arms all the same for 00-09?
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
Holy crap those are pricey. Wonder why they say for AP2 only? Arent the control arms all the same for 00-09?
Rear UCA's are not the same.
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Originally Posted by B serious
Rear UCA's are not the same.
yup. Every other control arm on S2000's are same from 2000-2009. But rear uppers are different from when they redesigned rear subframe for updated suspension geometry
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^ I just did an AP2 subframe swap and it didn't dawn on me that I would need longer rear UCA bolts lol.

I luckily had TSX compliance bushing bolts and 2 other long Honda control arm bolts in my gigantic bolt bin :wipes forehead:
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Originally Posted by RedCelica
Holy crap those are pricey. Wonder why they say for AP2 only? Arent the control arms all the same for 00-09?
There is a lot of labor involved. If you can afford the downtime of having your car on stands, it's simply send them off and get them back and install. No having to deal with pressing out, pressing in and this is a top of the line product, there's nothing better on the market.
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Originally Posted by spdracerut
There is a lot of labor involved. If you can afford the downtime of having your car on stands, it's simply send them off and get them back and install. No having to deal with pressing out, pressing in and this is a top of the line product, there's nothing better on the market.
I could actually, but if they dont do ap1s Im SOL. Probably will fire off an email to them if I get the money saved.
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Anyone got any feedback on the Hardrace spherical bushings?
Saw some on sale at a really nice price and got a bit tempted.
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Originally Posted by B serious
My experience with sphericals is on a stock and Ohlins equipped STi...and on my old S13.
The car rattled over imperfections like rumble strips and cracks in the road.
This^^^ I had heim jointed sway bar end links on an NA Miata. On uneven surfaces, they rattled like a bucket of bolts. I quickly reinstalled the OEM end links. If spherical suspension joints make any noise like the heim joints on my end links, I would rule out the sphericals for a DD.
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Originally Posted by ES2K
This^^^ I had heim jointed sway bar end links on an NA Miata. On uneven surfaces, they rattled like a bucket of bolts. I quickly reinstalled the OEM end links. If spherical suspension joints make any noise like the heim joints on my end links, I would rule out the sphericals for a DD.

Well...I meant that the suspension didn't deflect or absorb sharp impacts like rubber would. Not that they rattled like you're describing.

Rattling noises and looseness is a sign of bad bearings. The stock honda endlinks are a ball/socket (bearing) type. They shouldn't actually rattle unless they're worn. Ball joints and tie rods used on virtually every car are also bearings.


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