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what Suspension setup should I do?
02-23-2008, 06:13 AM
#52
After much research and 2+ years of reading I have just purchased the Spoon Sports non-adjustable setup. This consists of a shock / spring package that is manufactured by the same manufacturer that the OE stuff is...Showa. This will lower the car approx 1".
I decided to go this way after reading several reviews about putting either Eibach or Swift springs on the OE shocks. I also have a friend who had Eibach on his 2002 with OE shocks and I did not like the fact that it sits a bit higher in the front than in the back.
Several reviewers (on S2ki.com) said that the Swift springs were great but had a bit more "bounce" than they would like (with the OE shocks). I do not want ANY more increased
I decided to go this way after reading several reviews about putting either Eibach or Swift springs on the OE shocks. I also have a friend who had Eibach on his 2002 with OE shocks and I did not like the fact that it sits a bit higher in the front than in the back.
Several reviewers (on S2ki.com) said that the Swift springs were great but had a bit more "bounce" than they would like (with the OE shocks). I do not want ANY more increased
02-23-2008, 06:16 AM
#53
For reference, here is a list of some spring rates that I have gathered from various posts on this site:
Bilstein PSS9
Fr: 345 lb with 85 lb helper springs
Rr: 285 lb
OEM Spring rates by year (front/rear)
00-01 Fr: 218(3.9) - Rr: 291(5.2)
02-03 Fr: 240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1)*
04-07 Fr: 256(4.57) - Rr: 207(3.7)*
08-up Fr: 274(4.89) - Rr: 225(4.0)*
08CR Fr: 375(6.7) - Rr: 264(4.71)*
*Estimates based on published % changes from Honda.
Spoon is 4.7 (263) / 6.9 (386) f/r
Swift is 4.55 (254) / 6.0 (335) f/r
Espelir ASD springs
- Front 5.3 kgmm
- Rear 7.0 kgmm
- An average drop of 1.3"
- OEM comfort
Conversion
1 kg/mm = 2.2lb/ (1/25.4) in
1 kg/mm = 55.88lb/in
Bilstein PSS9
Fr: 345 lb with 85 lb helper springs
Rr: 285 lb
OEM Spring rates by year (front/rear)
00-01 Fr: 218(3.9) - Rr: 291(5.2)
02-03 Fr: 240(4.3) - Rr: 230(4.1)*
04-07 Fr: 256(4.57) - Rr: 207(3.7)*
08-up Fr: 274(4.89) - Rr: 225(4.0)*
08CR Fr: 375(6.7) - Rr: 264(4.71)*
*Estimates based on published % changes from Honda.
Spoon is 4.7 (263) / 6.9 (386) f/r
Swift is 4.55 (254) / 6.0 (335) f/r
Espelir ASD springs
- Front 5.3 kgmm
- Rear 7.0 kgmm
- An average drop of 1.3"
- OEM comfort
Conversion
1 kg/mm = 2.2lb/ (1/25.4) in
1 kg/mm = 55.88lb/in
02-23-2008, 12:10 PM
#55
[QUOTE=05S2k02Si,Feb 23 2008, 07:13 AM] After much research and 2+ years of reading I have just purchased the Spoon Sports non-adjustable setup. This consists of a shock / spring package that is manufactured by the same manufacturer that the OE stuff is...Showa. This will lower the car approx 1".
I decided to go this way after reading several reviews about putting either Eibach or Swift springs on the OE shocks. I also have a friend who had Eibach on his 2002 with OE shocks and I did not like the fact that it sits a bit higher in the front than in the back.
Several reviewers (on S2ki.com) said that the Swift springs were great but had a bit more "bounce" than they would like (with the OE shocks). I do not want ANY more increased
I decided to go this way after reading several reviews about putting either Eibach or Swift springs on the OE shocks. I also have a friend who had Eibach on his 2002 with OE shocks and I did not like the fact that it sits a bit higher in the front than in the back.
Several reviewers (on S2ki.com) said that the Swift springs were great but had a bit more "bounce" than they would like (with the OE shocks). I do not want ANY more increased
02-23-2008, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tekstar,Feb 23 2008, 01:10 PM
My Eibach's do not sit higher in the front than in the back.
As for the bounce in the Swift springs, I'm surprised to hear that. Everyone I've talked to says they perform just like stock. Thanks for the info. My Eibach's perform very similar to stock.
The Spoon setup is a fantastic setup. But you're comparing apples to oranges. If you're going to spend $1275 to replace the shocks and springs, you need to be comapring setups such as the Bilsten PSS9 or the Tein Monoflex, maybe even the KW V3 for a bit more.
But even then, a coilover setup is overkill for the OP. This is his daily driver and he has no need to spend $1000+ over on a coilover setup unless he wants to get serious about track days, or dump his car.
As for the bounce in the Swift springs, I'm surprised to hear that. Everyone I've talked to says they perform just like stock. Thanks for the info. My Eibach's perform very similar to stock.
The Spoon setup is a fantastic setup. But you're comparing apples to oranges. If you're going to spend $1275 to replace the shocks and springs, you need to be comapring setups such as the Bilsten PSS9 or the Tein Monoflex, maybe even the KW V3 for a bit more.
But even then, a coilover setup is overkill for the OP. This is his daily driver and he has no need to spend $1000+ over on a coilover setup unless he wants to get serious about track days, or dump his car.
