cujet

Interesting about the pad bending. Must have become red hot. That's a symptom of brakes that are too small. No steel backing plate, when red hot, will retain strength.

I'd guess the carbotech pads simply conduct heat well enough to allow this to happen.

I had something similar happen to Hawk HP pads on my turbo Miata while on Homestead track. It was simply too much speed for those tiny brakes.

tcjensen

Seems this happens a decent bit with carbotechs across different cars. Carbotech claims improper bedding can contribute, as their pads are very picky about a good bedding procedure. Heard good things about cobalt and can only find one bent backing plate story compared to plenty of carbo stories

Dead Serious

I ran Carbotech pads for 3 years on my track trim. I only ran them on the street to and from the track and maybe for a couple days if i got the car ready early. They are very loud on the street after the trackness cleans itself off, comically ear piercingly loud when very little pressure is applied. They also have a squishy feeling compared to the Cobalt pads I run now. I dont recommend Carbotech for any street use but they do dust less than the Cobalts and you do have experience with em.

RedCelica

I can also confirm that coming back from the track they were pretty squishy. I first thought I boiled the fluid, but when I put the OEM pads (and my street set of rotors) back on the pedal was hard as a rock.

User 121020

I use to run XP10s with stock calipers. As others have said, they're annoyingly loud if you use light pedal pressure when driving on streets. If you brake aggressively, they're silent.

When I switched to Wilwood calipers and XP10 pads, the pads stopped making noise. They still dust like crazy, but they no longer squeal during light braking loads. Just thought it was strange that switching to a 4-piston caliper changed the noise characteristics.

thomsbrain

You might also check speed speedfreaksusa.com. They have several track S2000 specialists involved in the organization, they ship fast and have good prices. I've used them for pads, fluid and a Hard Dog group buy in the past.

boyguan

I second speed freaks. I've stepped away from carbotech and am using project mu. I won't be going back

vwynn

question to the carbotech users... many have said they dust less (subjective when comparing track pads) than other pads but is the dust corrosive in that it binds onto the surface permanently? e.g. Rust onto your rims/paint if not cleaned right away?

reason i ask is i park my car outside so if i were to track or use these i dont want it t rust onto my rims if i cant wash it .. the bar area gets pretty moist over night...

tcjensen

Mine permanently bonded to rims I painted with VHT flameproof, but never permanently bonded to my TRMC3's prior to painting them different color ... So whatever that means

B serious

So...because you have a turbo car, you need race pads to drive on the street? Are you repeatedly stopping from 100+ mph in short increments?

There are a lot more downsides to using race pads for street use than dust and noise. There is an INSANE amount of both, though, BTW. Its not within a reasonable amount.

You could use stoptech SP pads instead. People do use those on track (with stock power and street tires). Putting them on the track really puts them on their limits. But...on the street, you'll probably never see their limit. And they're $100ish for the set.

I think that you can get those and buy rotors for like $180ish on rockauto.