I'm still wondering the same thing.

I know that one reason ported was recommended was because it's "more efficient" than sealed and doesn't require as much power to make it move. This was obviously a key consideration when choosing the Memphis amp to run the sub.

Now that I'll be running the MMATS amp on the sub, I'll have much more power, and I could have the enclosure sealed to get that tighter bass since I'll have enough power to make it move!

So, once I get the amps in, I'll listen to see how it sounds. Since the amps won't be here until next week, it'll give the sub more time to "break in" and "tighten up" as they think it will over time.

If not, then I'll get a sealed enclosure made so I can get the tighter bass!!!!

Don't get me wrong, I like the lower, more drawn out bass for certain music (rap, hip hop, some house/progressive), but overall, I want it tight and accurate.

 

Nate --

even a tight sealed sub will give you good sustained bass if that's what the CD has recorded... it just won't drag it out beyond the recording, and it won't have a boomy type peak for certain notes (frequencies).

i'm again seriously questioning the tighten up as it breaks in.... generally suspensions get loose as you play them, not tighter...

 

I know what you mean. That's why we'll have to see if it does indeed get tighter.

If not, we'll change it!

Hey, they said they wanted to make me happy, and I proved them wrong with what they had suggested, so now we'll do it my way and have it done right!

 

I still say you slip a Brahma or Eclipse in there (preference to the Brahma). Then you'd have no more worries about the sub and whether it was "tight" or not. All subs have to be broken in properly, but come on... it should sound decent regardless

 

That may be what I end up doing if I still don't get what I want out of the sub.

So we'll see what happens once the new amps are in.

I'd most likely go for the Eclipse sub in a sealed enclosure if I'm still not happy with the TREO.

I'm interested in hearing others' sound systems to compare just to make sure I am not crazy when I tell the shop that tighter, cleaner bass is possible.

 

Oh yeah, in the case of the TREO subs, they work best in ported enclosures, thus the reason for the ported box with that sub.

I know sealed will be better, but it will also be better with an Eclipse sub and NOT the TREO.

 

The Eclipse is designed for a sealed enclosure. You have to understand that the specs for some subs REALLY slant them toward one or the other, but some subs really walk the line down the middle. Eclipse equipment in general is more geared toward sound quality than SPL, although it can get loud.

If it were me, and I were in your shoes I would probably have installed:

1. MB Quart components in the doors
2. Eclipse Sub in a sealed enclosure
3. USAmps Sub pushing about 800-1000 watts for the sub
4. Audison, Zapco, MMATS SQ, USAmps, or other exceptionally clean amp running the components at about 125-150watts per channel and I would have bought a x4 so that if I wanted rear speakers I could add them.

It appears that you are going all around the horn to eventually get to a similar system. Focals with an extra tweeter to simulate that MB Quart brightness, a sealed enclosure to get the accurate bass you would have gotten with the Eclipse in a sealed enclosure we recommended, 2 seperate amps like we recommended, an amp with more than 250 watts to easily run the sub properly, and an amp with plenty of juice to run the components.

I would submit that now that you are buying an amp with the juice, you consider the Adire Brahma sub instead of the Eclipse. I originally recommeded the Eclipse because I thought you might get it to work well in that ported enclosure with the power you'd be sending to it. Now that power is no longer a factor, I think you should look at the Brahma. It will outperform the Eclipse in every way, and still be cheaper. You could even run it ported if you didn't want to change the config too much.

Just my thoughts.

 

Cool, I'll look into the Brahma subs. Do you have a link for more info about them?

Yep, we're taking the long way to get where everyone had recommended in the first place. Although I told the shop what I wanted (based on everyone's recommendations), they wanted to "prove" to me that their recommendations would be better. Now, I've proved them wrong and am doing what I wanted to be done in the first place.

If they had just listened to me the first time, we could have avoided this long, drawn-out episode of trying this and that and not having what I want.

 

Adire Audio Home:
http://www.adireaudio.com/

Information on the Brahma Line:
http://www.adireaudio.com/mobile_audio/dri...ahma_series.htm


The Brahma can soak up a LOT of power, and it will get very very loud. But it is known as having some of the tightest bass on the planet. Also of note is that because of its xmax, it moves as much air as the next size driver up from most manufacturers. Meaning that the 10" Brahma will be moving about as much air as a 12" Eclipse.

Yours for $349.

 

i'll echo Coach...

i've never experienced the Brahma subs, but their reputation is very established imo.