I have the 720 and it has great talk time looks great and plus it does not have the "SAMSUNG" name on it. I am anxious for the next round of phones with built in "bluetooth".

 

I have a Samsung A500 and it works pretty good. It is with Sprint PCS tho, so that won't help you very much.

 

I have the Motorola V60i and several of my friends of the Motorola T720, overall the Motorolas have better quality. Forget about the bells and whistles that you'll never use. If you want the most reliable phone get the Motorola.

If you want to see what's coming out in the near future click this link to Motorola's upcoming phones:

http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWht...ewproducts.html

 

I have the T720, I give it a , When trying to view messeges or use some of the functions the phone is just to slow for the menus, software, inbox etc... It lags ( theres a delay after u push the button) some of you may not think its that bad but after u try to view a inbox with 8+ messeges it gets worst. But sound quality is average battery life seems to be good for me (cingular seems to have better battery life then Verizon?) but hope that helps Oh and one more thing the phone when opened it squeaks at the hinges so it gets annoying when ur talking on the phone so Get Samsung or LG my girlfriend has the samsung its so loud a ++ and it doesnt squeak at the hinges!!!

 

My brother said the LG4400 out of those 4 choices.
He works for Verizon tech. support.
He said Samsung one also but he said no download and not really color.
Battery life Samsung probably half a day more if that.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by S2k Dude
[B]I have the Motorola V60i and several of my friends of the Motorola T720, overall the Motorolas have better quality.

 

If you want the most reliable phone, don't get the Motorola. Unless they have done drastic steps, their failure with 30-days is the highest of any of the big companies. Even some of the new comers had better quality then they did. They also had the highest rate of dropped calls. Most manufacturers use the same chipset manufacturer; the most common is Qualcomm, the company that invented CDMA. Motorola refused to use the Qualcomm chipset and made their own. Not only did they ignore the CDMA specs which thus caused their phone to be delayed many times, but it also resulted in the worst performing phone that was probably every attempted to be sold. CDMA calls for 200 mw of power, Motorola decided to give people better range and go with the full portable power of 600mw. This resulted in poor voice quality, poor signal and overall a phone that just wasn't useable. Motorola actually sold this phone, and all but a few carriers refused to sell it to their customers it was so bad. Motorola took the phone off the market, turned it down to 200mw and then sold it. Most carriers didn't pickup the new version either as its shortfalls were still present. It took Motorola years to get the software for the phones to get close to the Qualcomm benchmark. In those years, they always blamed the carriers for the network, while the other manufacturers never had a problem.

The Motorola's had such a high failure rate, they were forced into providing more spares on their dime then what any of the other manufacturers were providing. Motorola at first refused; after all orders were cancelled they changed their mind on their position. In some cases, their failure rates were nearly twice that of the top companies.

Calpilot7,

CDMA has a very small market segment compared to the likes of GSM. Most carriers do not put much effort or R&D into the CDMA side, as it's global market share continues to fall. GSM is where the money is and thus gets the latest technology first.

 

lanbrown, I'm curious as to where do you get your information about Motorola from?

I agree CDMA and TDMA are on the way out and GSM is the future.

 

How about past experience, I worked for a cell phone company. The person in the cube next to me dealt with all of the manufacturers and was in charge of the ordering of new phones as well setting up the phone replacement program. If the phone failed under warranty and replacement was given on the spot or mailed to the customer. If it was out of warranty, they could pay a flat fee and a new phone would be given on the spot or mailed to them and they turned over the broken one. How they got the phone depended on if they called customer care or went to company owned location. Motorola had the highest 30-day failure rates and all manufacturers were required to provide a certain percentage upfront; FRU (Field Replaceable Units.) The FRU was calculated based on 1,000 and the failure rate. Motorola had the highest FRU and refused to provide more then the average of all manufacturers. That's fine if you are below the average, but they were higher then it. Motorola was given an ultimatum, provide the percentage of FRU of your failure rate or all order will be cancelled. They didn't believe the orders would and refused. Orders were cancelled and they immediately changed their mind.

I was also in the first group to try out the new firmware, as I was very vocal about it. My boss had a Motorola only policy so I was forced to have a Motorola phone. So I talked to the guy that dealt with the phones quite often, especially since he was in the next cube over. In the building, there were two sites, the power was turned as low as it could do and terminators were used instead of an actual antennae. This allowed the site to feed only the building and the parking lot while the site across the expressway would feed the entire area. This allowed employee use not to interfere with customer traffic and customers would not be on the sites unless they entered the parking lot or building. At peak times, the two sites that fed the building were at 70%, so they had plenty left. 70% of the time the Motorola would ring, the other 30% of the time it would not. My desk phone was set to go to the mobile after four rings and if the mobile wasn't answered it would go to voice mail. If I was in the middle of something or on a conference call (almost constantly anyway) I would not answer the second line of the desk phone. 30% of the time the phone would not ring, but a VM was left. Motorola blamed this on the network, not the firmware. They were finally forced to acknowledge the problem and issued a firmware upgrade. After that, the hone would ring over 90% of the time. So much for Motorola claims for it being the network. It was the same exact phone; just the software was upgraded on it.

I also got a new phone every three to six months because the Motorola just didn't hold up well. The case would creak and flex like there is not tomorrow.

I would also get phones before they were released to. Their original digital CDMA phone I could not give it back fast enough. It was over a year late and was a total POS, even more then their current crop. When I left that carrier, I signed up for service with a different carrier and the service was better as well as the technology. CDMA is nearing its limit and there is no interoperability between vendor equipment, so all equipment needs to be purchased from one company. You buy a Nortel switch, you need Nortel sites. Even then that switch was designed for use as a small PSTN switch (feeds your home) and then analog cellular was added on, not integrated in to it and then they added CDMA on top of that, once again not integrated.

 

Sanyo 8100 right now with Sprint you can get it for 99.99. Takes pics, and does the usual fancy stuff, great reception I have 2 friends with them.