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Old May 16, 2007 | 12:00 PM
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With the OP's okay...

With the Z, it is very easy to get things apart for the install. The concern I have is space issues behind the stereo for all the extra add-ons (BT, Sirius, iPod). I am anticipating that I am going to have to see how far the cables can go before I choose the right spot for locating them.

Also, where did you locate the GPS and Sat. antenna? I was thinking about the under the dash where the factory GPS antenna is, as I would like to keep the bubbles off of the car and out of sight.

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-Dave
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by daverx7,May 16 2007, 08:14 AM
Very good point! I haven't connected all the wires yet (just the harness, while comfortably inside) and just assumed I would have to connect the VSS wire during the install. Honestly, I am surprised that others do require the wire as my TomTom's do just fine without it, but just figured it is what it is.

If you have any tips on the install (which I am doing tonight), would you mind sending me a PM (don't want to hi-jack this thread)?

Many thanks,

-Dave
What?! A navi without VSS is stupid. If that is true, I will start steering people away from kenwood.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by daverx7,May 16 2007, 12:00 PM
With the OP's okay...

With the Z, it is very easy to get things apart for the install. The concern I have is space issues behind the stereo for all the extra add-ons (BT, Sirius, iPod). I am anticipating that I am going to have to see how far the cables can go before I choose the right spot for locating them.

Also, where did you locate the GPS and Sat. antenna? I was thinking about the under the dash where the factory GPS antenna is, as I would like to keep the bubbles off of the car and out of sight.

Thanks,

-Dave
OOPS! didn't check this thread till now. Current Nissan Maxima 6speed owner doing some research for a future purchase of an AP2 non drivebywire.

Anyways, here's my response:
We put the sirius unit in the cubby behind the driver's seat and the Navi unit back there too.

GPS antenna we put up on the DASH in the center closest to the windshield I think..his sirius antenna is mounted outside right on the roof closest to the hatch. BECAUSE the Kenwood does NOT have a VSS wire I would not advise you to put it under the dash. The OEM one can do that because it's hooked up to the VSS wire so it's not that big of a deal.

Good luck!
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Old May 16, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC,May 16 2007, 01:21 PM
What?! A navi without VSS is stupid. If that is true, I will start steering people away from kenwood.
yep I thought that was DUMB too as EVERY navi I've installed has it. I checked the manual/install manual online and it truly isn't listed in the parts list.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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What is a VSS?
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Old May 17, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Vehicle speed sensor. Basically a wire that carries the vehicle speed in it (and reads out on your speedometer)....Why is it important for navis? Well, there are areas (like tunnels, or the dragon for instance) where GPS reception is spotty at best. However, the navi DOES have a gyro sensor in it (it can tell if you are turning left or right) and if the VSS is connected, it can tell how fast you are going. Thus, a navi WITH a vss wire, will be able to keep you on track even though you dont have reception. It can calculate from the last time you had reception, based on your speed, where you are. A navi without it is no better than a handlheld one.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 05:35 AM
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Ohhhh, that's what they're called. I knew Nav systems did that (some even leave "bread crumb trails"), but didn't know it actually had a technical name.

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Old May 17, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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Technically, a VSS wire is on the car, not on the navi. The navi just has an input to read the car's signal.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 06:02 AM
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I've used several portable GPS units and they worked well for me (for my typical given roads), so I don't expect that it will be a problem sans-VSS connect with the Kenwood. I can see for those that are frequently in large cities where there are tall buildings blocking the satellites being an issue, but that is less than 1% of my driving.

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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by daverx7,May 17 2007, 06:02 AM
I've used several portable GPS units and they worked well for me (for my typical given roads), so I don't expect that it will be a problem sans-VSS connect with the Kenwood. I can see for those that are frequently in large cities where there are tall buildings blocking the satellites being an issue, but that is less than 1% of my driving.

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then you should definately be alright.

I used my navigation in New York City w/o the VSS wire hooked up....MAN it sucked. lol...
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