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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

quick note of the article is that.

"It can be solid, stranded, copper, oxygen free copper, silver, etc.--or even "magic" wire--as long as the resistance is kept to be less than 5% of the speaker impedance. There is no listening difference as long as the wire is of adequate size."

also funny comic at the end.. "Gorilla speaker wire.... and it's also bullet proof".

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it does mention that it would be hard for most consumers to be able to measure resistance that low. which is very true.. you'll need a $400 fluke to get that kind of accurate reading.

4ohm speaker, you'd need to be able to measure 0.2 ohm

2ohm 0.1ohm differnce.
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 02:39 PM
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All of it true. Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is ignorant, a liar, or an idiot.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by devilchrist,Dec 12 2008, 06:36 PM
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm

quick note of the article is that.

"It can be solid, stranded, copper, oxygen free copper, silver, etc.--or even "magic" wire--as long as the resistance is kept to be less than 5% of the speaker impedance. There is no listening difference as long as the wire is of adequate size."

also funny comic at the end.. "Gorilla speaker wire.... and it's also bullet proof".

:rolf: :rolf:

it does mention that it would be hard for most consumers to be able to measure resistance that low. which is very true.. you'll need a $400 fluke to get that kind of accurate reading.

4ohm speaker, you'd need to be able to measure 0.2 ohm

2ohm 0.1ohm differnce.
www.knukonceptz.com for all your wiring needs (because have you ever tried to source 1/0 power wire?)

Speaker wire, I agree with. Power wires in car audio are important for the same reasons - not enough current carrying capability means starving your amps...
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Neutered Sputniks,Dec 13 2008, 04:26 AM
www.knukonceptz.com for all your wiring needs (because have you ever tried to source 1/0 power wire?)

Speaker wire, I agree with. Power wires in car audio are important for the same reasons - not enough current carrying capability means starving your amps...
Best bang for the buck! That's what I have in my car!
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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i order stuff from knuno all the time.. but I 'm kinda dissapointed in the speaker wire they sent me. in the 2 channel kit.

they sent me 20ft of 12awg.. and 20ft is way too short for most cars to run 2 channel. so now i need more cable.. which I'm definitely not willing to pay shipping for on addional 15 ft of cable

it's home depot time for cheapo 12awg cable
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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what do you think is the miminum awg wire i should run for components? my amp has 80w RMS per channel.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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I would check this table from the review:

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable


I usually just run 12-14awg for my components. There's no such thing as "too big" a wire. 1/0 would be great speaker wire for a sub, but the cost and logistics of running it sort of nullify that benefit...lol
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Neutered Sputniks,Dec 13 2008, 02:50 PM
I would check this table from the review:

http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm#wiretable


I usually just run 12-14awg for my components. There's no such thing as "too big" a wire. 1/0 would be great speaker wire for a sub, but the cost and logistics of running it sort of nullify that benefit...lol
Agreed! On components a 1/0 gauge wiring would be overkill. Especially when my power is only 4 gauge.
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Old Dec 13, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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ya i ended up getting more 12awg.. in case my cable has extra resistance.
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 12:00 AM
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Something I don't think the article (and the table for sure doesn't) mentioned is the difference in resistance between solid, stranded and bimetallic. Some of the more expensive wires are that way because they are more pure than others. The more pure the copper or silver, the lower it's resistance is going to be. Solid will have a lower resistance than stranded at the same AWG, but will cost more and is not as flexible. This is why you won't find much solid wiring except for the heavy wiring used in construction where it doesn't need to flex after installation.
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