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This has been discussed before... you can not make a crappy unit any better than it already is, you can only make it worse. You have one set of specs to work with and that's all... kind of like claiming "This wand will turn this pile of cow dung into gold!"
Originally Posted by MacGyver,Jun 21 2005, 01:38 PM
This has been discussed before... you can not make a crappy unit any better than it already is, you can only make it worse. You have one set of specs to work with and that's all... kind of like claiming "This wand will turn this pile of cow dung into gold!"
imo, it depends on what is making the HU crappy...
if it's abnormal equalization curves that are automatically inserted, then i'd say YES that is fixable.
if it's noise or a poor signal, then you're SOL. garbage in = garbage out, and post-processing starting w/ a junk signal is going to be pretty darn limited on how much you can fix.
on the actual topic of this thread--- forget the CleanSweep.
for the price of the CleanSweep -- go buy a nice aftermarket unit and a DCI.
the CleanSweep is targeted for people who have MASSIVE integration of car functions w/ their HU. think 2005 Accords, Odysseys, the new Maximas, Altimas, the 2004+ RX-8's, the new Acura TL's, etc. as i recall, these vehicles now have climate controls, nav, engine symptom reporting and more integrated along with their stereo functions. honestly? i HATE that trend.
i hope it fades out again soon.
also, i doubt you'll find the CleanSweep online yet. it's a relatively new product and probably hasn't hit the grey market in force yet.
if it's abnormal equalization curves that are automatically inserted, then i'd say YES that is fixable.
if it's noise or a poor signal, then you're SOL. garbage in = garbage out, and post-processing starting w/ a junk signal is going to be pretty darn limited on how much you can fix.
on the actual topic of this thread--- forget the CleanSweep.
for the price of the CleanSweep -- go buy a nice aftermarket unit and a DCI.
the CleanSweep is targeted for people who have MASSIVE integration of car functions w/ their HU. think 2005 Accords, Odysseys, the new Maximas, Altimas, the 2004+ RX-8's, the new Acura TL's, etc. as i recall, these vehicles now have climate controls, nav, engine symptom reporting and more integrated along with their stereo functions. honestly? i HATE that trend.
i hope it fades out again soon.also, i doubt you'll find the CleanSweep online yet. it's a relatively new product and probably hasn't hit the grey market in force yet.
Originally Posted by MR_ASDF,Jun 23 2005, 12:35 AM
im not trying to start a flame war or anything, but who says you cant improve a crappy unit? that is untrue.

Anyway, when it comes to signals, you can only degrade it further, you cannot increase the quality. Bear this simple fact in mind when making all statements about the SoundSweep (or any other sound processor).
You can say the sound is "better", but that's a highly subjective term, not objective. If the stock unit adds in an equalization curve, the damage is already done. The damage may be relatively minor, but it's done. The CleanSweep allows you to re-modify the pre-processed signal and "equalize" it flat, which can then be equalized with some other sound processor to your liking.
BUT, the damage was already done. Therefore, there's no advantage signal-wise, there's nly disadvantage. Use the money you would normally spend on the CleanSweep and spend it on a head that doesn't force a specific equalization curve on you... no damage to the signal and you can still equalize it later with another sound processor.
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Originally Posted by MacGyver,Jun 23 2005, 02:05 PM
Oh, we're happy to start flame wars in here,, especially if your name is Shifty 
Anyway, when it comes to signals, you can only degrade it further, you cannot increase the quality. Bear this simple fact in mind when making all statements about the SoundSweep (or any other sound processor).
You can say the sound is "better", but that's a highly subjective term, not objective. If the stock unit adds in an equalization curve, the damage is already done. The damage may be relatively minor, but it's done. The CleanSweep allows you to re-modify the pre-processed signal and "equalize" it flat, which can then be equalized with some other sound processor to your liking.
BUT, the damage was already done. Therefore, there's no advantage signal-wise, there's nly disadvantage. Use the money you would normally spend on the CleanSweep and spend it on a head that doesn't force a specific equalization curve on you... no damage to the signal and you can still equalize it later with another sound processor.

Anyway, when it comes to signals, you can only degrade it further, you cannot increase the quality. Bear this simple fact in mind when making all statements about the SoundSweep (or any other sound processor).
You can say the sound is "better", but that's a highly subjective term, not objective. If the stock unit adds in an equalization curve, the damage is already done. The damage may be relatively minor, but it's done. The CleanSweep allows you to re-modify the pre-processed signal and "equalize" it flat, which can then be equalized with some other sound processor to your liking.
BUT, the damage was already done. Therefore, there's no advantage signal-wise, there's nly disadvantage. Use the money you would normally spend on the CleanSweep and spend it on a head that doesn't force a specific equalization curve on you... no damage to the signal and you can still equalize it later with another sound processor.



What do you mean by that?
