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My 06 ECU has been flashed but now LOST MY Flashpro unit?

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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Boofster
Originally Posted by s4play' timestamp='1333553650' post='21574956
Ideally I'd like to hookup a Flashpro device to the one s2000, copy the program BEFORE I flash it back to stock settings


thanks!
So basically you want to save your map.
You can't do that without your own unit.
The best route to get it would be to contact the tuner and have him send you the file.
You should have got this already because sometimes you need to re-flash it anyway.

As for your other point, no I haven't done that but afik, that's how the system is designed to work.
You can call them to confirm.

thanks but I do have a Flashpro unit - I have no clue who the original tuner was
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Old Jun 6, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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Once you "marry" a Flashpro to a particular ECU you're pretty much screwed if you lose the unit or it becomes damaged. You will most likely have to send your ECU to Hondata to have them "unlock" it and be able to return it to stock. You can't plug a different Flashpro in and fix this situation, that's not how they work. Also, have fun getting support from Hondata...I wasn't very impressed with their customer service AT ALL when I had an issue with them a few months ago.
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Old Jun 7, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by robotvoice
Once you "marry" a Flashpro to a particular ECU you're pretty much screwed if you lose the unit or it becomes damaged. You will most likely have to send your ECU to Hondata to have them "unlock" it and be able to return it to stock. You can't plug a different Flashpro in and fix this situation, that's not how they work. Also, have fun getting support from Hondata...I wasn't very impressed with their customer service AT ALL when I had an issue with them a few months ago.
Are you sure about this or just guessing???


I took my flashpro to my first car, flashed it back to stock and unlocked it. Then brought it to my other car and it was easily able to lock to my 2nd s2000. Then I selected the option to revert to stock, it seemed to work and then I unlocked the Flashpro so I can put it back on my other car with no problem.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by s4play
Originally Posted by robotvoice' timestamp='1339035943' post='21761207
Once you "marry" a Flashpro to a particular ECU you're pretty much screwed if you lose the unit or it becomes damaged. You will most likely have to send your ECU to Hondata to have them "unlock" it and be able to return it to stock. You can't plug a different Flashpro in and fix this situation, that's not how they work. Also, have fun getting support from Hondata...I wasn't very impressed with their customer service AT ALL when I had an issue with them a few months ago.
Are you sure about this or just guessing???


I took my flashpro to my first car, flashed it back to stock and unlocked it. Then brought it to my other car and it was easily able to lock to my 2nd s2000. Then I selected the option to revert to stock, it seemed to work and then I unlocked the Flashpro so I can put it back on my other car with no problem.
So, did you fix your problem then? Where are you still having an issue? I'm trying to follow your posts but it's getting a little confusing. I know for a fact that if you marry (lock) the Flashpro to a certain ECU, it will only work with that ECU until it is unlocked from it, like you said you did. This is to prevent one person from buying a Flashpro and flashing all their buddies cars for free. Now, taking an unlocked Flashpro and hooking it to an ECU that is locked to a different Flashpro should give you the same issue. Once you try to lock to that ECU it should recognize that it is not stock and not allow you do to anything with it. Are you saying this is not the case for you and you have gotten around this? Hondata's site says that if you lose your Flashpro, you need to send your ECU to them to get "unlocked", so I am going off this information that what you're trying to do won't work. Unless you have found a loophole, in which case that would be great for others who have lost or damaged their Flashpro.
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by robotvoice
... I know for a fact that if you marry (lock) the Flashpro to a certain ECU, it will only work with that ECU until it is unlocked from it, like you said you did. This is to prevent one person from buying a Flashpro and flashing all their buddies cars for free. Now, taking an unlocked Flashpro and hooking it to an ECU that is locked to a different Flashpro should give you the same issue. Once you try to lock to that ECU it should recognize that it is not stock and not allow you do to anything with it. Are you saying this is not the case for you and you have gotten around this? Hondata's site says that if you lose your Flashpro, you need to send your ECU to them to get "unlocked", so I am going off this information that what you're trying to do won't work. Unless you have found a loophole, in which case that would be great for others who have lost or damaged their Flashpro.
There is no reason to assume that an unlocked FlashPro can't be locked to another ECU that is already locked to another FlashPro. After all, the only reason why Hondata makes you lock the FlashPro to an ECU is to protect THEIR revenue stream. There is zero benefit to Hondata to prevent 2 FlashPros from being locked to the same ECU! That would effecftively increase their revenue stream by "bricking" one of the FlashPros. The original FlashPro would just need to be thrown away, if it was ever found...
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by robotvoice
Originally Posted by s4play' timestamp='1339093025' post='21763154
[quote name='robotvoice' timestamp='1339035943' post='21761207']
Once you "marry" a Flashpro to a particular ECU you're pretty much screwed if you lose the unit or it becomes damaged. You will most likely have to send your ECU to Hondata to have them "unlock" it and be able to return it to stock. You can't plug a different Flashpro in and fix this situation, that's not how they work. Also, have fun getting support from Hondata...I wasn't very impressed with their customer service AT ALL when I had an issue with them a few months ago.
Are you sure about this or just guessing???


I took my flashpro to my first car, flashed it back to stock and unlocked it. Then brought it to my other car and it was easily able to lock to my 2nd s2000. Then I selected the option to revert to stock, it seemed to work and then I unlocked the Flashpro so I can put it back on my other car with no problem.
So, did you fix your problem then? Where are you still having an issue? I'm trying to follow your posts but it's getting a little confusing. I know for a fact that if you marry (lock) the Flashpro to a certain ECU, it will only work with that ECU until it is unlocked from it, like you said you did. This is to prevent one person from buying a Flashpro and flashing all their buddies cars for free. Now, taking an unlocked Flashpro and hooking it to an ECU that is locked to a different Flashpro should give you the same issue. Once you try to lock to that ECU it should recognize that it is not stock and not allow you do to anything with it. Are you saying this is not the case for you and you have gotten around this? Hondata's site says that if you lose your Flashpro, you need to send your ECU to them to get "unlocked", so I am going off this information that what you're trying to do won't work. Unless you have found a loophole, in which case that would be great for others who have lost or damaged their Flashpro.
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Well here's exactly what I did since my Flashpro was locked to my white car. The blue car is the one I lost the Flashpro and need to go back to stock:

a) Plug in Flashpro to my GPW car, chose return to stock ECU setting, then unlocked the unit from my white car

b) Plug into blue car and locked Flashpro to the car, showed successfully done, no errors

c) Select return ECU to stock setting again, it does the usual status bar and shows completed

d) Unlock ECU from Blue car

e) Lock ECU back to my whit ecar

f) Flash my boost program back onto my white car and drove the white car just fine


**However I have not tried to start the blue car just yet but there is no reason to think it didn't work? I will report back later today so hopefully this can be done.

gernby: What you say makes perfect sense theoretically so I will let you guys know if this works. This would be no different than buying another brand new Flashpro and trying to lock it to a ECU that has already been locked right and flashing it again?
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Old Jun 8, 2012 | 01:23 PM
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s4play, when you plugged your other Flashpro into your Blue S did it recognize your other tune or that it was locked to another Flashpro? I thought the setup would be more secure in that when you lock your ECU with a flashpro, someone else wouldn't be able to override that with another unit but I guess that's not how they have it setup. If it works for you that's great, it would save someone the money of buying another unit if they lose theirs and need to go back to stock, they could just borrow an unlocked one.

Has Hondata given you any feedback on the matter?
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Old Jun 11, 2012 | 09:19 AM
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I have not been able to reach Hondata via phone so decided to do my own testing.

We bought a 2nd Flashpro (used) so in theory this is the same as using mine. If the other holds true that means no one can ever sell their used Flashpro because once it's tied to one ECU VIN it won't work?

When I plug my first flashpro into the blue car, it recognizes just fine and able to restore the stock ECU program. Remember the only way to flash a tune is to first open the file.
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Old Jun 12, 2012 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by s4play
I have not been able to reach Hondata via phone so decided to do my own testing.

We bought a 2nd Flashpro (used) so in theory this is the same as using mine. If the other holds true that means no one can ever sell their used Flashpro because once it's tied to one ECU VIN it won't work?

When I plug my first flashpro into the blue car, it recognizes just fine and able to restore the stock ECU program. Remember the only way to flash a tune is to first open the file.
To sell a usable used flashpro, it needs to be unlocked from prior car/ecu. Once that is done, it is no longer tied (or locked, to use the same terminology throughout the pertinent discussion) to one ECU/vin.

At this point, it is the same as buying a new flashpro (disregarding any used vs new pros/cons).

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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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^CONFIRMED! You can definitely use this procedure to flash a modified ECU back to stock! Works perfectly.


Now here's a question:

I have a car with the ECU already flashed by Hondata with their modified program to run their KW supercharger system and then the ECU was sent back to me for use with the car.

Can I copy this program from the flashed (modified ECU) into my Laptop to use on another car using my Flashpro device after I lock into that car?
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