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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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The differences between those runs are very impressive. Would you please provide more info about the 2 runs, and also the dyno procedures that were used? The blue plot doesn't look ANYTHING like a stock tune at all. Stock tunes run very rich at WOT with simple bolt ons, but this one is running dangerously lean throughout The stock tune also doesn't have such a smooth fuel curve.

I honestly hope that these kind of improvements are possible with a simple reflash, but I just can't trick my brain to believe it. There are so many ways to invalidate a dyno test. I was able to produce "gains" like this just by opening the hood on my Lexus.

Seriously, I am not trying to flame you, or EliteTuning. I honestly hope that these results can be legitimized.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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1 minute breaks with ice on the intake manifold. Blue line was still with the bolt ons installed running a stock tune from flashpro. There were 3 other s2k owners there as well to tell you that everything was done legit.

A simple reflash won't give you these gains. This car was fine tuned for max overall power and reliability on 91 octane from Chevron. 4th gear for the comparisons. IAT temps were within a couple of degrees of each other.

Hood open, fan blowing for all runs. Ice was off during the runs (didn't make much of a difference anyways)
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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we let the car idle for 1 minute before all the maps were run on the dyno, FOR ALL THE RUNS.
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Old Nov 28, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Cliffs notes thus far:
1. FlashPro rocks.
2. Etuning can be done well in experienced hands.
3. Etuning can also be done poorly in inexperienced hands.
4. EliteTuning has experience and the trust of his clients, PM him for references / dyno sheets / vouches.
5. Dyno-tuning is a more real-world method if available. However, may not be available to everyone.
6. Etuning can wind up similar to dyno-tuning if the cars are fairly stock.
7. While the actual touted gains may vary and may or may not be modest, tuning can help smooth out power curve. YMMV.
8. We appreciate discussion and differing opinions when done with baseline respect.
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Old Nov 29, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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6) It can be done with any car that has traction in 3rd gear (including high boost motors)
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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in my limited experience with tuning, i could see this being doable. my buddy with a scoobie has his tuned over email and i had my tahoe tuned over email. few things i see that are limited with it:

1. esp for email tunes, takes longer start to finish. IE pull some logs, email to tuner, wait for response, get back a tune if car is flashable and flash to car. pull more logs, email to tuner, wait for response, or wait for newer tune.

as for my tahoe, do logs, email to tuner. wait for new ecu with new tune in it. swap ecus only to find out new ecu doesnt work. email tuner and wait. get another new ecu with new tune on it, install, log then email tuner and wait for response.

2. you just cant maximize the tune like u can being there, some tuners have an ear for knock, some can feel how the car is doing, not too mention part throttle tuning if the dyno is not loading type requires dirving around and tuning in the car.

ehh, its the customers call. call me old fashioned but for my highly modified s2k, i wanna see the guy face to face thats tuning my shit.

i have done both ways, and face to face was faster start to finish for me.
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:32 PM
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That's why offer to fly out there.
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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what's stock ap2 hp/tq number on the dyno that you use?
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 02:52 PM
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woo hoo, can't wait to receive my flashpro. Should be coming soon so I can join in on the fun
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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right now, i only have injen intake and 70mm test pipe. Should be able to use one of the stock calibration and bump up the rev to 8500?
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