I'd look into the Ptuning kit... Its the best kit IMO.

 

Mase > ptuning

Ptuning looks way to complicated with a oil pump and having to swap the mount. The mase kit is extremely easy to install and no relocation necessary

Forged does look nice though

 

[QUOTE=Suzuka_Joe,Oct 19 2010, 09:38 PM] Mase > ptuning

Ptuning looks way to complicated with a oil pump and having to swap the mount.

 

Couple things to clarify.

400HP dyno number is subjective, because of the dyno the shop was using to tune is well known in the area to read low. I haven't dyno my car on a dyno Jet/pack yet since I got my turbo. But for comparison, when I was on my CTSC at 11psi, my car dyno'd 330HP on their Mustang Dyno, but then I went on a Dyno day at a different shop with Dyno Jet, and my car dyno'd at 354HP and it was hotter and more humid. So I think my 400HP at 14psi is completely subjective.

As for the other parts needed. I've had my EMS and injectors prior to upgrading to the Turbo from my SC days. I'm running Kpro and ID1000's, and a single walboro pump. So I think that's about another 2K worth of additional parts you will need.

I'm not going to get into a "which turbo kit is best" debate here especially I do not have any experience with the other 2 kits personally, all I can say is that Forged build a solid kit with a sweet manifold, the car runs very smooth, and I had zero issues at the track (2 times since turbo), and local group drives in the twistys (about 250 miles).

I think there's a good number of us FI guys, or even guys looking to go FI are scared due to all the threads we read with people running into issues with their Turbo setup. But we just got to take a step back and realize that these guys have the time/energy/budget to push their car and turbo to its limits. Some of us don't (want to) put our cars on the line like that, and as long as we stay within the limits, I really think all kits will perform well with very little problems.

 

^ well said! Does look like a nice kit, I love the 2 piece manifold idea with vband!

 

well ive looked at the mase but its a little pricey for me.
It is a complete kit but if i could get a complete kit from froged for cheaper, then thats what im doing.

Plus forged looks more bullitproof.

 

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its braced so imsure it'll be alright

 

We understand customer's concerns about bracing the manifold but what people don't understand is stainless moves when heated and cooled. Metal expansion is happening no matter what, so a brace can effect this expansion and create MORE stress and potentially crack the manifold instead of helping it. In the past years of our R&D process on multiple applications; we have found that it is better to engineer the manifold to have the strength needed for this expansion that takes place, rather than add a brace to compensate for the "strength" of the manifold. Bracing WILL cause more problems on a long runner manifold because the amount of movement when heated will be greater than the brace will allow. For example; FULL-race doesn't use any bracing on there manifolds and they are by far the number one manifold supplier in the nation. (Yes name dropping competition)

As far as the V-band "situation"; it supplies 360 degrees of clamping force. That's as good as it gets. An example would be Tial. They use v-band exhaust housings on there turbos. We actually use Tial v-band hardware in our kits javascript:emoticon(':D'). Brian (S20004ME_pdx) has used this setup for over 6 months and hasn't had any issues with the v-band or any part of the turbo kit. Our original downpipe design that was on this vehicle for testing actually ended up too low and had issues with bottoming out with street driving. This created lots of flex and stress onto all components including the manifold and didn't cause any issues besides us making a new downpipe.

Actually we use aeroquip black hoses. This specific hose can handle up to 300 degrees and 250psi of pressure. Just as much as most stainless braided; not shiny.

 

anymore pics of setup?