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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Revenge,Aug 18 2009, 07:59 AM
So running a meth kit would help with creep?
lol, no thats not what I was meaning.

I was explaining that boost creep was causing me to exceed the threshold that I felt comfortable with pump gas. So instead of running a 50/50 mix of pump/race I am choosing to use meth so I don't have to worry about the creeping issues.

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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 09:01 AM
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Intersting point I never though about it that way. Just like a safty factor.
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by siadam,Aug 18 2009, 07:09 AM
I've got a full 3" and mine still creeps something awful.

7lbs to 11lbs by redline.

I was forced to run a 50/50 mix of pump/race gas, as 11 lbs was putting me @ 420whp on pump gas..which I wasn't to fond of.

So I put a smaller 4/5 lb spring in, and it worked fine..but then I wasn't able to make 15lbs as easy...without going through the points where the switchover occurs.

So I am deciding to leave my 7psi spring in and go meth this winter, problem solved, lol.

I was going to ask you the very question that you just answered. See my wastegate position is different than your manifold but still comes off the collector. Im expecting to see creep issues JUST like you do since I also have a 30R. The only difference in our setups really is I have a F20 and you have a F22. I was seeing 9-10psi @ 6500rpm at PART THROTTLE with the open downpipe. I really hope it doesnt creep much more than that or Ill have to mix in 110octane every tank ( which I will do lol ).
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DeadZero,Aug 17 2009, 06:53 PM
joey i can't wait to see the spool results to your Twin Scroll Gt35R
You and me both brother
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Old Aug 18, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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haha my boost creep actually goes the other way! I hit max boost of around 18 psi and by the end of third It creeps down to 13 psi, which is the actual mechanical spring pressure. Guess I need a bigger spring.
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 10:33 AM
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Like previously stated a good ecu controlled electornic solenoid is a good way to somewhat fix this. You can't keep it from creeping up to the higher boost in high rpms, but you can get it to hit that boost earlier so you will have a much better powerband rather than having boost slowly creep to redline.
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Old Aug 19, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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See the head gasket threads.
i dont know why youd ever go as low as 7 psi. No need.
12-15 is fine. i doubt youd have much creep if you just ran the car on wastegate at 12. trying to control it down to 7 will never work.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 04:34 AM
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Spec Opps when you fitted your car with a 44WG did you port it out?
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by OGPackin,Mar 19 2007, 03:51 PM
A boost controller most definitely can lower the boost. Not sure where your getting that from...
I agree him. Spec, you need a larger wastegate. You have a big turbo that's trying to move a whole lot of air. A manual boost controller will not solve the problem. Your wastegate, at 38mm, is unable to blow off the amount of air your turbo is pushing.

I have had this issue in my FD RX-7...exact same problem. On the street I wanted to run a low boost setup. My wastegate was undersized so I got a manual boost controller thinking it would stabilize my boost. Negative. I popped my motor in the winter and upgraded my boost controller with the rebuilt motor.

Spec, you can sell that wastegate for 75% of what a larger one will cost you.
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Old Feb 25, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Spec_Ops2087,Aug 17 2009, 02:46 PM
Air is lazy and will go whichever way is easier to exit.

For an external dump:

A larger exhaust will increase the chance of causing creep -- your making the exhaust restriction less therefore the air has less resistence exiting the turbine side instead of the wastegate.

For internal dump:

It can really go either way -- it really comes down to wastegate design in the turbo and also in the downpipe
Yep, you're right. So, another way to stabilize the boost is installing your stock cat. Forgot to mention that. But yeah, an external wastegate is the way to go...good luck!!!

Keep boostin'!...well, not 'til you get this resolved...hehe
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