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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Asura,Jan 15 2006, 05:58 PM
I just meant the Ti valves in general for boost. Same goes for Ti rods.
Ohh...I see. You are basically saying that forged valves would be better suited for FI applications.
Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Or so I have been told by qualified sources. For example, Ti rods don't endure the heat as well as say 4340 forged chromoly rods.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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Really? I would not have thought that con rod temperatures got more than a few hundred degrees. I never worried about heat cycling when considering material selection. First choice to make in picking a rod is material, and tied to this is production method (forging usually), heat treatment, surface prep (polish parting lines to relieve stress risers and then shot peening for strength), and geometry (H or I-beam). Strength of material determines required size and weight. Size affects clearance and windage. Weight limits redline due to acceleration forces. Titanium rods have been used for years in endurance race engines due to great strength/weight ratio. This includes GP and Superbike motorcycle engines with much higher redlines and acceleration forces than our f20c. This may not be the hot setup today, though.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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The purpose of lightening rotating or reciprocating assemblies is if you want to increase rpm capability. Go with steel for strength and durability. You can gain a little power from using lighter components other than the extra revs but not enough to be worth it in most cases.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by snakeeater,Jan 17 2006, 08:57 AM
Titanium rods have been used for years in endurance race engines due to great strength/weight ratio. This includes GP and Superbike motorcycle engines with much higher redlines and acceleration forces than our f20c. This may not be the hot setup today, though.
Sure, but a race motor is torn down after a certain number of HOURS or races.

Ti is fine to race on even with boost, but unless you have major sponsors for your street car, race components giving smaller gains and requiring frequent rebuilds and costing 3-4X the 4340 parts are more trouble than they are worth.

I can't imagine pulling a motor apart to magnaflux the rods on a street car
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by steven975,Jan 15 2006, 06:51 PM
You do know that titanium retainers are only going to be good for about 10K miles before they start to gall, right?
i've used ti retainers for well more than 10k and did'nt have excessive wear.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 2QYK4U,Jan 15 2006, 06:37 PM
^ Can you please provide me with some feedback Slow?
A lower Compression ratio motor NA will make less power than stock.

I'd probably buy a LoveFab kit with a 2mm gasket and run the motor untill it breaks, then build a new one. The OEM shortblock is built to tighter tolerances than what many shops can hold.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Slows2k,Jan 17 2006, 04:39 PM
A lower Compression ratio motor NA will make less power than stock.

I'd probably buy a LoveFab kit with a 2mm gasket and run the motor untill it breaks, then build a new one. The OEM shortblock is built to tighter tolerances than what many shops can hold.
Thanks for your feedback.

I am interested in the Full-Race Stage 3 GT turbo kit. If I don't build the engine prior to going FI, I'd probably keep the boost down to about 8-10 psi, get used to the added power, and then build the motor / crank the boost.

BTW...what is the purpose behind a 2mm gasket? I am not a mechanic so please excuse my ignorance.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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To cheaply lower static compression, without changing pistons.
Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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I did a quick search on King Motorsports' website and didn't find a 2mm head gasket. I found an 89mm and 90mm one. You were referring to the head gasket, right?



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