S2000 Forced Induction S2000 Turbocharging and S2000 supercharging, for that extra kick.

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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A turbo will make more power with less boost almost always. I read on here of people having 40k plus miles on there SC engines with around 400 whp and only doing regular maint, on it. I wont lie theres a lot of days i wish i would have went turbo but i dont think i could have made the power safe on a turbo set up for what i have into my SC set up.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by lude92_si
A turbo will make more power with less boost almost always. I read on here of people having 40k plus miles on there SC engines with around 400 whp and only doing regular maint, on it. I wont lie theres a lot of days i wish i would have went turbo but i dont think i could have made the power safe on a turbo set up for what i have into my SC set up.
I'm getting sick of hearing this. What makes you believe that a turbo requires anymore maintenance then a supercharger? They both produce boost which puts a strain on the motor. I'm going to ask the big question but have you ever had a turbo car? I have had a turbo car all stock from head to block. I ran my stock block GSR for over 30000 miles boosted and took it on a rode trip from Rhode Island to FL. Yes by the time I got ready to sell it I had blow by and needed new rings which is expected making 3 times the stock power. It's sad how this trend of "Oh a supercharger is more reliable" keeps going through these threads.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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Most of my insight has came from members on here that have had both turbo and SC S2000s. And from diff. shops. Even when i went to get my car tuned at Evans he also told me that he gets a lot more return S2000s with issues that are turbo and almost never sees a SC car come back for issues. I never said a turbo car cant be reliable many people daily turbo cars.

Yes they both produce boost but the strain is very diff with both set ups. A turbo comes on a lot harder and u can build boost faster so say your at full boost at 5400 rpms. As with my SC set up im not at full boost till around 8000rmps so its a smoother transaction. Dont get me wrong I have been flirting with the idea of selling my SC set up and going turbo for more mid range. But in my book 15lbs of boost at 5400rpm is going to put more strain on the engine then 15lbs at 8000rpm. So im only at my max boost for around 1100rpms. Where if i was turbo i would be at full boost a lot longer there for putting more strain on my engine. Thats just the way I looked at. Plus im not out tracking or racing my car. Its just a weekend toy and i wanted a bit more power.

And to answer ur question I have owned a turbo Miata.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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I've talked to many turbo S2K owners and they said that it IS maintenance intensive. Maybe a greddy kit or something will be really reliable...oh wait they keep cracking manifolds. Turbo guys break diffs and trannies...S/C guys not so much. The turbo kit that doesn't need tinkering...a myth.

Boost puts pressure on a motor, but in most situations, a s/c is going to make less and put less stress on it. Ultimately it's about added torque...a turbo will make more almost always, and it's excess torque that breaks things.

A turbo will make more power...pretty much always. But, there's a price in having a car that is going to be more temperamental and need extra care. That's not to say you can't have a reliable turbo...but that really doesn't seem like the norm. People switching want the extra power derived by the extra torque that a turbo can provide...it's an obvious upgrade for folks wanting more than a blower can deliver. Why would one who has more power and less torque switch to the other method???

There are folks with close to 100K on blowers...not too many (any?) with that on a turbo S2K.

Basically, if you want more power but near-stock reliability, a S/C will do that. If you want more power...turbo is the way to go, but to say that it's just as reliable as a supercharger just doesn't seem like it passes the sniff test.

My S2K is blown, my other car is turbo. There are days I went with a turbo on my S2K, but when I read these threads, I'm constantly reminded that I made the right choice. My goals were more modest...start with 300whp and learn then shoot for a little more. If I wanted over 400whp I'd have gone turbo, with all the advantages and disadvantages that entails.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by steven975
I've talked to many turbo S2K owners and they said that it IS maintenance intensive. Maybe a greddy kit or something will be really reliable...oh wait they keep cracking manifolds. Turbo guys break diffs and trannies...S/C guys not so much. The turbo kit that doesn't need tinkering...a myth.

Boost puts pressure on a motor, but in most situations, a s/c is going to make less and put less stress on it. Ultimately it's about added torque...a turbo will make more almost always, and it's excess torque that breaks things.

A turbo will make more power...pretty much always. But, there's a price in having a car that is going to be more temperamental and need extra care. That's not to say you can't have a reliable turbo...but that really doesn't seem like the norm. People switching want the extra power derived by the extra torque that a turbo can provide...it's an obvious upgrade for folks wanting more than a blower can deliver. Why would one who has more power and less torque switch to the other method???

There are folks with close to 100K on blowers...not too many (any?) with that on a turbo S2K.

Basically, if you want more power but near-stock reliability, a S/C will do that. If you want more power...turbo is the way to go, but to say that it's just as reliable as a supercharger just doesn't seem like it passes the sniff test.

My S2K is blown, my other car is turbo. There are days I went with a turbo on my S2K, but when I read these threads, I'm constantly reminded that I made the right choice. My goals were more modest...start with 300whp and learn then shoot for a little more. If I wanted over 400whp I'd have gone turbo, with all the advantages and disadvantages that entails.
It's funny Steven I want to Palm Bay high and graduated in 06.

To stay on topic. You're going off of hear say though. Who knows how hard some of these guys have beat on their cars to break diffs and trannys. Yea if I'm making 200whp plus power then you when you have a S/C then I would expect to break a few parts. Honestly if you're so confident that turbo s2000s don't last post a thread asking "how long has your S been running with a turbo". I'm betting to say you'll see plenty of members respond back saying over 30k miles. If you enjoy your S/C good on you I know I don't. My friends at meets tell me race this guy or that guy but I know deep down inside that my car isn't fast it'll never met my standards as long as I keep this S/C. A turbos power curve will mash the a S/C all day long even at lower power. I got into force induction with the mind set that stuff will break.
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