S2000 Forced Induction S2000 Turbocharging and S2000 supercharging, for that extra kick.

The Effects of Changing Mounts on Manifold Longevity

Old 05-21-2012, 05:44 AM
  #1  

Thread Starter
 
herecomesboost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Centreville, Va
Posts: 4,692
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default The Effects of Changing Mounts on Manifold Longevity

I was curious if anyone has any tangible (or theoretical) evidence regarding the effects of running stiffer engine mounts on manifold longevity? Will the added stiffness help/hurt/not have an effect?
Old 05-21-2012, 06:06 AM
  #2  

 
Soul Coughing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chiswick
Posts: 13,483
Received 67 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

Most data will be anecdotal, but in theory it could change the resonance frequency of the manifold, for better or worse depending on the design.
Old 05-21-2012, 06:13 AM
  #3  
Former Sponsor
 
Kings Performance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 654
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Having stiffer mounts will affect when you have a long manifold.

We only install the side that the motor torque.



Fernando @ Kings Performance
Old 05-21-2012, 06:33 AM
  #4  

 
illestrolla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Roc
Posts: 1,579
Received 13 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

^^^ any more info on this?
Old 05-21-2012, 06:39 AM
  #5  

Thread Starter
 
herecomesboost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Centreville, Va
Posts: 4,692
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Kings Performance
Having stiffer mounts will affect when you have a long manifold.

We only install the side that the motor torque.



Fernando @ Kings Performance
More prone to cracking? Or will the vibrations be better dispersed through the chassis?
Old 05-21-2012, 06:40 AM
  #6  

Thread Starter
 
herecomesboost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Centreville, Va
Posts: 4,692
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Soul Coughing
Most data will be anecdotal, but in theory it could change the resonance frequency of the manifold, for better or worse depending on the design.
I appreciate your ambiguous answer
Old 05-21-2012, 06:49 AM
  #7  

 
illestrolla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Roc
Posts: 1,579
Received 13 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

I have also pondered this.


I can't imagine anything can be worse than broken stock mounts as the excess movement is translated down your exhaust, and torques on the mani.

Flex-less downpipes crack manifolds almost instantly.

I don't see why stiff mounts and a nice flex section would be any worse. Certainly interested to hear what others have to say.
Old 05-21-2012, 06:57 AM
  #8  

Thread Starter
 
herecomesboost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Centreville, Va
Posts: 4,692
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

fwiw, I do have a sidewinder manifold, but will be running an uppipe through the hood.
Old 05-21-2012, 07:15 AM
  #9  

 
Soul Coughing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Chiswick
Posts: 13,483
Received 67 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by herecomesboost
Originally Posted by Soul Coughing' timestamp='1337609196' post='21716278
Most data will be anecdotal, but in theory it could change the resonance frequency of the manifold, for better or worse depending on the design.
I appreciate your ambiguous answer
It's ambiguous because there aren't too many people that have actually done legitimate testing to see if there is a correlation between harder mounts and increased cracking etc.. I was just saying that in theory, changing a motor mount could change the frequency that the manifold would resonate at. I haven't done anything with my mounts because I like driving a car that still resembles a street car, but everyone has their own priorities when building a car.
Old 05-21-2012, 07:24 AM
  #10  

Thread Starter
 
herecomesboost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Centreville, Va
Posts: 4,692
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Soul Coughing
Originally Posted by herecomesboost' timestamp='1337611216' post='21716423
[quote name='Soul Coughing' timestamp='1337609196' post='21716278']
Most data will be anecdotal, but in theory it could change the resonance frequency of the manifold, for better or worse depending on the design.
I appreciate your ambiguous answer
It's ambiguous because there aren't too many people that have actually done legitimate testing to see if there is a correlation between harder mounts and increased cracking etc.. I was just saying that in theory, changing a motor mount could change the frequency that the manifold would resonate at. I haven't done anything with my mounts because I like driving a car that still resembles a street car, but everyone has their own priorities when build a car.
[/quote]
I definitely agree with the highlighted assertion; just wondering if the resultant change is positive or negative.

Quick Reply: The Effects of Changing Mounts on Manifold Longevity



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:28 AM.