I ran with an Ultimate Racing turbo for almost two years without one problem. I did have a MoTec wideband to help street tuning, and it did take a lot of tuning, but, like I said, not one bit of trouble, except 308 whp wasn't enough to satisfy me. So I bought a used block and built a motor for 450 to 550 whp. When I swapped out the engines and removed the head of the UR turbo motor, everything was in excellent condition. So, yes, you can bolt on a turbo kit and expect a reliable 300+ whp with much more midrange torque than any existing SC has to offers.

 

I should add that if I was starting all over today, I would start with the Lovefab kit. Nothing wrong with the UR kit, but the Lovefab is, IMPO, a better design.

 

is ultimate racing carb legal? do u guys know any turbos that r carb legal?

 

No carb legal turbos as of yet. Maybe some in the works but none with the sticker.

 

You're absolutely right. But I was only throwing in my .02c. I'm a huge proponent of turbochargers over superchargers on small displacement engines. My opinion may be a little skewed since I'm comfortable being in, around, or under cars. Putting together a turbo kit doesn't scare me in the slightest and things like CARB legality mean absolutely nothing. A bolt on supercharger kit isn't nearly "hands on" enough and the flexabilty/efficiency/numbers/customization options just aren't there.

 

I think that is an important point. Many of the pro-turbo guys (and that includes me to a degree) take for granted that we don't mind getting under a car, pulling the sump and welding, drilling and tapping it (by way of example). To others that is a big deal and in most cases a big deal of money.

I know whenever I talk to Chris Barry of PRB he says thing like "why don't you just use lower compression pistons?". Ah, Chris, that's because to change the pistons I have to remove the engine and rebuild it and to me, in my garage, even with a tool set that impresses the hell out of my mates, that is still a truly mammoth (if not impossible) exercise.

Even with my turbo kit I hate the idea that I have to outsurce some of the aluminium welding and specifically the plenum chamber fabrication. It's either that or learn to weld and buy the equipment. And that still might happen.

That's why I say the SC kits are generally a low commitment affair. With the Comptech at least the only bit I had to do externally was the crank pulley drilling and tapping and in the US you can do that by exchange/core charge.

The one thing many of us over look when recommending solutions is the capabilities of the end user. Either that or the size of their wallet. Not everyone has a mate that can whack together intercooler plumbing.

 

Guilty as charged. I often (wrongly?) dismiss those who don't spin thier own wrenches as wallet racers or just plain wimps.

 

LOL, I'm somewhere in the middle. I'm not sure whether I have latent mechanical aptitude or I'm just too tight to pay someone to do it for me.

 

Precisely! When we give advice on these forums, we must be careful to do so in a somewhat unbiased manner. We do not know the capabilities, the end use, the size of wallet of the poster making these enquiries. Not everyone is willing to get "down and dirty". Most just want to bolt the thing on and never have to deal with little things ever again.
When "enthusiasts" from one camp or the other (turbo - S/C) raves about their alternative, the responsible thing to do is to temper that with other alternatives, viewpoints, "disclaimers", etc. so the target audience has all the facts.
If I knew I was going to keep my car for a while and if I wanted to spend the time and money, even I might consider giving the turbo route a try. However, I've enjoyed the trouble free, tinkering free daily driving of my set-up too much to start on something that will take quite a bit more time and effort to get to that same stage of "forget about it" kind of ownership.

 

how much hps does LoveFab turbo kit inject into the S2000? i've checked with UR last night, they have Generation 2 turbo kit, which injects 319 hps into the S2000. i love the "psssshhh" sound from the BOV.